RE: Looking for in-browser HTML/text editors

We've just started playing around with Xopus ourselves.  We've just done
some demos with our own XML and schemas and so far, I'm pretty
impressed.  By allowing us to use our own schemas we can enforce style
and design rules in the content editor.  This is something that's more
difficult in a straight HTML editor.  Also, from what I've seen, many
HTML editors follow their own "rules" for outputting HTML that may or
may not match up with what your own coding standards are.  By enforcing
an XML schema you can control what the final output looks like.

--Ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Erik M. Hartman -
Hartman Communicatie BV
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:26 PM
To: 'Austin, Darrel'; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [CMS] Looking for in-browser HTML/text editors

Hi Darrel,

Please do check www.xopus.com. It's an in-browser XML editor. I guess it
support the things you want, as well.

You should also check the excellent JISC TechWatch Report
http://www.jisc.ac.uk/uploaded_documents/tsw_03-08.pdf (.pdf, 1,6 MB) 

Please inform the cms-list about the outcome of your quest.

Good luck!

Erik


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Austin, Darrel
> Sent: donderdag 20 mei 2004 20:54
> To: '[email protected]'
> Subject: [CMS] Looking for in-browser HTML/text editors
> 
> 
> I've asked this in a few places, but completely spaced on asking it in

> here...the most logical place for this question...
> 
> We're building an in-house CMS for our organization and we're now 
> needing to pick an inline HTML editor for our admin tools. There seems

> to be more browser-based html editors than there are CMSes. I'm 
> looking for one that would (ideally) provide these features:
> 
> a) works in IE6/PC (though other browsers are bonus)
>    on the front end, .net server model on the back
>    end.
> 
> b) allows for admin-defined tags/CSS classes
> 
> c) allows admin's to block certain styling 
>    (namely in-line styles and presentational markup)
> 
> d) ability to clean pasted text from Word/Other 
>    HTML pages. Ideally, this could be a default/
>    automated behavior.
> 
> e) ability to create a link within the text that 
>    links to a file on the server that can be browsed 
>    to. (ie, select text >> click MAKE LINK >> select 
>    BROWSE >> browse to PDF on SERVER >> Click INSERT
>    LINK to make link)
> 
> f) Support for accessibility tags via the interface
>    (alt tags in images, title attributes in objects, 
>    TH tags, ACCRONYM tags, etc.)
> 
> I've looked at about about a dozen thus far: 
> http://www.darrelaustin.com/stuff/htmleditors.html
> 
> Most seem
> to handle a-d OK. e, about half, and very few handle f.
> 
> One that I really like in terms of the markup it produces is
> xstandard: http://xstandard.com/
> 
> It produces true xhtml, and has nice accessibility features like TH 
> tags, requires alt attributes, automatically creates title attributes,

> has a built-in 'screen reader' preview.
> It's nice. Ironically, the one editor that supports web standards in 
> its markups requires the ActiveX and IE. Since we're windows-based and

> use IE here, we can live with that.
> 
> Other contenders are FCKedit and KTML. I really like the output of 
> Xstandard, but it lacks a bit in UI.
> 
> Anyways, before I spend too much more time looking for others, I 
> thought I'd ask the list if they'd recommend any product based on the 
> above criteria not already in my list so far. I'm really looking for a

> 'clean, structured markup editor' more than a 'wysiwyg' editor (If 
> that makes sense ;o)
> 
> -Darrel
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