Re: Short list starting point.

Hi,

[reply below]

Kim Bækgaard wrote:

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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Koberg (took out your mail address to save you from spam;-)
> Sent: 26. maj 2004 20:01
> To: Kim Bækgaard
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CMS] Short list starting point.
> 
> Kim Bækgaard wrote:
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> 
>>CMSWatch, which I really enjoy to read articles etc. from, has what I 
>>consider a "high end" focus - the enterprise ready systems and 
>>concepts - which is one very relevant criterium to use for the filtering
> 
> process.
> 
> I disagree with this. CMSWatch focuses on largish CMS companies -- which is
> a perfectly reasonable thing to do. Whether these companies deliver
> something that is "high end" is open to debate. My experience with the
> briefly trained consultants who consult the customer is that you get an end
> result that turns out to be much less than it could be.
> 
> ******Reply*********
> Well - I guess I didn't make a clear enough distinction between
> product/system and solution - the first is the basis for the second... I did
> NOT say that e.g. an Interwoven based solution will necessarily be good -
> but I consider Interwoven a rather good (and high end, considering features,
> possibilities etc.) product. And the same goes for many other of the
> products listed at CMSWatch. 
> 
> I completely agree that badly skilled consultants can result in bad
> solutions, no matter how good the system/product is - that is common sense!
> Please also note that later in my post I exactly pointed out the high
> importance of good and skilled implementation partners.
> 
> So - I guess you read something in my post that was not there - I of course
> apologize, if the right meaning did not come through the first time, but I
> never said that the products listed at CMSWatch will automatically result in
> good solutions - just that most of the products have the capabilities for
> that, if you have enterprise class needs.

I did not intend to offend you. I hoped to provoke a wake up call to 
sites like CMSWatch that blindly give their OK to the companies based on 
their size/advertising budget, regardless of the fact that their 
consultants, though well spoken, are close to incompetent.

Though... I disagree again, are there any companies on that list that 
offer XML editing of their content (wysiwyg, in the browser?)? Do any 
use standards based templates? Do any try or focus on standards based 
output ([X]HTML, CSS, WAI)?

best,
-Rob

> 
> Regards
> Kim
>