Re: CMS with good administration part?

At +0200Monday 5/31/04 01:52 AM, Khan wrote:

>I'm looking for CMS that have great administration part. I'm not
>interested in site displaying, speed, HTML standards or anything like
>that. I just need stable administration part with modules:
>
>- News with archives;
>- Blogs;
>- Some users Can be administrators of blogs;
>- Link directory;
>- Navigation with multiple categories and subcategories;
>- Different news for different parts of my web site;
>
>Web site will be very large and it will have almost any module that you
>can find these days :)
>
>I like XOOPS [1]. I also have my eye on Mambo [2]. A friend of mine told
>me that Drupal [3] has best community and if not drupal that I should
>check EZ [4].

Khan,

         Keep in mind that the 'nukes (e.g., PHPnuke, PostNuke, Xaraya, 
Xoops, etc.) are not true CMS's because they are "hybrids," one-half CMS 
and one-half "community-ware," software that facilitates the building of 
web communities. For a lengthy discussion of Xoops (probably one of the 
better 'nukes), see the June, 2004 issue of Linux Journal (page 14). I call 
this line of software "the 'nukes" because they are nearly all "descended 
from," or forks of, PHPnuke. For example, PostNuke was founded by 
disgruntled users of PHPnuke who forked the source code of PHPnuke.

         Also remember that CMS's and community-ware (e.g., phpBB) have 
different purposes, and software that tries to accomplish _both_ purposes 
almost always fails to do _either_ well. The 'nukes exemplify that failure. 
The 'nukes are neither good CMS's nor good community-ware.

         For an example of Drupal in actual usage, see www.DebianPlanet.org.

         Decide whether your primary purpose is to facilitate the 
management of web content or, instead, to build a web-based community. If 
your primary purpose is the former (rather than the latter), then you 
should probably choose a _true_ CMS, rather than hybrid software that tries 
to do both. The following are often cited as being among the best of the 
open source (OS) CMS's:

1) Plone -- written in Python and requires Zope, an application server.
2) OpenCMS -- based on J2EE (mostly servlets, including JSP) and XML, 
requires a servlet container (e.g., Tomcat).
3) Bricolage -- not a general-purpose CMS because it is best suited for 
newspapers, magazines, and other periodicals. Written in Perl and requires 
mod_perl, an Apache module.
4) Typo 3

         FWIW, the amount of "buzz" that Plone is generating now in the OS 
community astounds me. I have been following OS for years now (I have been 
using Linux since '97), and I have _never_ seen an OS software go from 
inception to "white-hot" so damned fast (with the possible exception of 
Jabber, an XML router). Heck, Plone did not make its debut until 2002, 
years after OpenCMS. In the OS community, Plone seems to be generating as 
much "buzz" as Linux did back in 1995. That amount of buzz indicates that 
Plone is probably the OS CMS to watch, at least in the category of 
general-purpose CMSes.

>What do you think? Which CMS has best PHP coding standards, best
>community, most modules etc...
>
>Any advice is appreciated.
>
>1. http://xoops.org/
>2. http://mamobserver.com/
>3. http://drupal.org/
>4. http://ez.no/
>
>If you know of some other CMS please send link. I know of
>opensourcecms.com but I'm interested in your opinions about project
>future, community etc.

Sincerely,
-- Paul Bain