RE: CMS Modules -

Hi -

What about the cost part of it? Based on the core CMS functions "Content
Creation, mgmt, and delivery model", can I have a set of open source product
listing with basic CMS functionality and a approx cost on them. Also, what
about 
the Microsoft platform based ready solutions available and their scalability
/ application development capabilities? 
Some suggestions will help, regards -

Sunny
 

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Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 6:48 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [CMS] CMS Modules -


Hi,

Taking forward of Apoorv's mail, there is one more important feature which
we should look for is Content Intellegence (metadata creation, management
etc) which allows you to categorize/filter content by a Metadata Model.

as said in the earlier mail, any CMS is composed of CMA and a CDA (content
management application & Content Delivery Application).

If I take this in terms of Interwoven, one of the ECMS available in the
market, the:
Teamsite makes a Content Management Application Opendeploy makes a Content
Delivery App Metadagger/Metadata makes a Content Intelligence etc.

Amit Jain


[email protected] said:

> 
> Features like calendaring, discussion forums, polls and surveys, etc. 
> are
certainly very cool and form a part of any web initiative that requires
collaboration. However, we must separate them from core content management
systems. The problems that a CMS tries to solve and those addressed by this
applications are very different.
> One can always say that the data generated by, say a voting 
> application is
content and hence by definition, any application that handles that is a
content management system. If we were to follow that line of thinking, then
pretty much everything will be a content management system. An ERP, a CRM
system, a search engine (Google??) - you name it and it'll be a CMS.
> 
> In my opinion, a CMS should provide core capabilities like:
> 
> 
> 1. Content Creation - Web based forms for content entry, integration 
> with
content creation software like MS-Office
> 2. Content Management - Workflows, version management etc 3. Content 
> Delivery - Some kind of templating that separates content from
presentation and a mechanism to publish content
> 
> It would be good to have interfaces to search engines and other
applications for dynamic delivery of content. This includes applications for
security, personalization, cacheing and so on. If some of these are built
into the CMS, that should be considered additional.
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sunny Ghosh
> > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 7:43 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: FW: [CMS] CMS Modules -
> >
> > 
> > Hi All,
> >
> > This is really interesting and a great learning experience!
> > To my understanding, a WCMS system, requires at the basic to have an 
> > highly usable "Content Production and Content Delivery" modules at 
> > the core and then one can get off the shelf modules which are 
> > specific to certain functionality, such as discussion groups, 
> > surveys, etc ...
> >
> > But -- What about platform and the associated cost with it?
> > Is it possible to get .NET ready content creation and presentation 
> > components instead of open source products? At a lower cost for 
> > achieving these basic functionality and then add modules later on 
> > --??? I am now thinking a little long term as James mentioned!
> >
> > I understand products such as Site core and Episerver provide ready 
> > solution - but if we were to look beyond pure play CMS features and 
> > take the next steps -- Do they provide you individual development 
> > licenses, say an "SDK"
> > -- along with their product at a lower cost and whether their 
> > framework are open enough for adding building capabilities?
> >
> > For instance, I rather build my information sharing module or Forum 
> > module myself at a later point just by using an "SDK"
> > copy. If they bundle things like Forms Designer, Task/Process 
> > Management framework, Collaboration Engine framework, Knowledge 
> > framework, Topic maps, etc -- I mean just API's and some fundamental 
> > models then I can do it myself ......
> >
> > More I think about this, I think it's quite possible to get all of 
> > these in a Java or Microsoft based environment product too -- But 
> > one has to pay a humongous initial license fee for this >>>
> >
> > Based on the working model I envisioned, can I have a set of open 
> > source product list with such functionality and a approx cost from 
> > anyone ...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sunny
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wilfried J. 
> > Klein Redaktionsbüro DigiKlecks
> > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:22 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [CMS] CMS Modules -
> >
> > Hi Richard and all,
> >
> > >I am glad that I have started down this route and the results so 
> > >far are  excellent and have given me so much freedom.
> >
> > That's the right way to do it ... I also did it the same manner and 
> > now finished a cms-module and shop-module.
> >
> > One of the most important core features is a template system
> > - I use vLib template and some basic classes from Daniels 
> > "AbsolutEngine".
> >
> > This core also gives a lot of freedom for developing:
> >
> > -  one class for generic database handling
> > -  another for authentification
> > -  a third one for basic methods
> > -  and the template system as user interface to separate logic and 
> > presentation
> >
> > Please excuse my poor English.
> >
> > .best regards to all
> >
> > Wilfried (from germany)
> >
> > --
> >
> > Wilfried J. Klein
> > Redaktionsbüro DigiKlecks
> > persönlich: http://www.wilfried-j-klein.de 
> > UnternehmerInnen/ExistenzgründerInnen im Focus:
> > http://www.unternehmerforum-mittelhessen.de
> >
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