Re: Archived state

At 13:36 19.01.2006, [email protected] wrote:
>Many customers give us requirements 
>specifications for their new web site and ask if 
>we could implement the requirements and of 
>course we want to do this by using Jahia. Often 
>there is  a requirement about time based 
>publishing and I know that this will be a 
>feature in the next Jahia release (currently you 
>can implement this yourself by using some date fields).
>
>But what will happen after the expiration date?

As currently implemented in jahia 5.0 (please 
check on the online demo of the beta 4 if you 
want to give a try: http://www.jahia.net/demo5/ 
), there are two new "metadata" for each container = start date and end date.

Those fields are automatically checked in live 
mode and the content is filtered accordingly.

The implementation is quite generic so you can 
perfectly add new plug-ins (for instance: publish 
a content every Monday or things like that).

Regarding the content, it is in fact still 
available in live mode but simply filtered and 
hidden for the end-users. But in the jahia 
back-end the content is still available in this 
mode. So the versioning workflow is the same aka 
staging -> live -> archive 1 -> archive 2 -> ... -> archive N.

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>The customers want to have an archive and that 
>expired pages shall be moved to that archive 
>automatically on the expiration day.

Here the paradigm is not really the same. What 
you are saying is that you have a validated 
content object on a page (e.g. pid 1) and at a 
certain date, this object should move to another 
validated page (pid 2) and disappear fomr 1. But 
at a content object level granularity, are these 
two objects the same or two copies? If they are 
the same, you will agree that you can not have 
two sets of different metadata for the same 
content object. So either this content is live 
(wherever it is published or reused on the site, either it is expired).

So what you are mentionning is more a publishing 
start and end date rathern than a content start 
date and end date = the workflow engine should 
(de)publish content automatically at certain 
date. So a page may expire but the same content 
may still be reused somewhere else...

Such a paradigm is not implemented by default for the moment in Jahia 5.0.

But perhaps simply creating a category "archive" 
and then filtering your content according to such 
a criteria would be enough, doesn it?

>This could be optional like "Page will be 
>archived on expiration day: true/false"  or 
>"Page will be deleted on expiration day: true/false"
>
>Now I wonder if someone has implemented a 
>similar mechanism and in that case how to do it.

Cf. should be possible with filters on 
categories... But then take care of the perf if 
you implement such a mechanism for all your content objects...

Cheers,
Stéphane

>  I am thinking about the "Cementery Of Expired 
> Pages" where the user (an editor) could browse 
> for and maybe pick up an expired page.
>
>Of course I know that the versioning system 
>could be used to restore an old page but that is 
>not what I want to tell the customer.
>
>Will there be an event like "Page is expired"?
>
>Regards
>/Lars Hagrot
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