Re: [VOTE] Move Lenya to Attic

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Sorry for the very late reply here. Going over our bylaws, I think that
this would require consensus approval. If that is the case, this vote
failed. Am I reading this right?


On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Thorsten Scherler <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On 24/02/15 10:39, Vik Tara wrote:
>
>>
>> On 23/02/15 23:24, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>
>>> -1
>>>
>>> I have to admit I am not really showing the commitment for a -1 but ...
>>>
>>> We have hardly discussed this vote to begin with. I heart many voice
>>> quoting that we do not use lenya as it right now, me neither. However I
>>> think the idea behind lenya is the awesome community behind it.
>>>
>>> Yes, java is not sexy anymore, yes XML hype is over, but as said by Vik
>>> REST is everywhere, so why not refactor?
>>>
>> But is it a refactor - or a whole new application?
>>
>> We moved to liferay - which is full of functionality - but I have to say
>> sometimes a bit heavy and full of it's own quirks.
>>
>> A very lean, html5 based application that incorporates a message bus to
>> consume a variety of different services and output to web / mobile, now
>> that would be more interesting.
>>
>>
> In my current project we are using a cqrs architecture like the one
> https://github.com/adrai/cqrs-sample of my colleague. You find many
> things like https://github.com/adrai/node-eventstore and it is round up
> by the use of https://www.npmjs.com/package/reflux in the front end
> client.
>
> Everything is either a command or an event on which you - as component -
> has to listen and react. We use it due to the speed of rendering over
> angular and better fitting in the cqrs pattern.
>
> I designed some web-apps that were listing on a activeMQ queue and
> dispatching the work but the pattern I am ATM applying in my work is still
> much more scalable since you implement the authorization and business rule
> validations in different tiers that you just need to pipe together and
> decide what to send it to the bus. Anyway lenya would still be a service
> responding to a various on formats but concentrate on that and only that.
> Meaning basically you use the power of cocoon to transform but all the
> surrounding that maybe needed to "M - Management" should be leveraged.
> Concentrating on the core functions of a CMS.
>
> salu2
>
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> Thorsten Scherler <thorsten.at.apache.org>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry for the very late reply here. Going over our bylaws,=
 I think that this would require consensus approval. If that is the case, t=
his vote failed. Am I reading this right?<div><br></div></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 3:22 P=
M, Thorsten Scherler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:thorsten@apach=
e.org" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On 24/02/15 10:39, Vik Tara wrot=
e:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
On 23/02/15 23:24, Thorsten Scherler wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
-1<br>
<br>
I have to admit I am not really showing the commitment for a -1 but ...<br>
<br>
We have hardly discussed this vote to begin with. I heart many voice quotin=
g that we do not use lenya as it right now, me neither. However I think the=
 idea behind lenya is the awesome community behind it.<br>
<br>
Yes, java is not sexy anymore, yes XML hype is over, but as said by Vik RES=
T is everywhere, so why not refactor?<br>
</blockquote>
But is it a refactor - or a whole new application?<br>
<br>
We moved to liferay - which is full of functionality - but I have to say so=
metimes a bit heavy and full of it&#39;s own quirks.<br>
<br>
A very lean, html5 based application that incorporates a message bus to con=
sume a variety of different services and output to web / mobile, now that w=
ould be more interesting.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
In my current project we are using a cqrs architecture like the one <a href=
=3D"https://github.com/adrai/cqrs-sample" target=3D"_blank">https://github.=
com/adrai/cqrs-<u></u>sample</a> of my colleague. You find many things like=
 <a href=3D"https://github.com/adrai/node-eventstore" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://github.com/adrai/node-<u></u>eventstore</a> and it is round up by the =
use of <a href=3D"https://www.npmjs.com/package/reflux" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttps://www.npmjs.com/package/<u></u>reflux</a> in the front end client.<br>
<br>
Everything is either a command or an event on which you - as component -=C2=
=A0 has to listen and react. We use it due to the speed of rendering over a=
ngular and better fitting in the cqrs pattern.<br>
<br>
I designed some web-apps that were listing on a activeMQ queue and dispatch=
ing the work but the pattern I am ATM applying in my work is still much mor=
e scalable since you implement the authorization and business rule validati=
ons in different tiers that you just need to pipe together and decide what =
to send it to the bus. Anyway lenya would still be a service responding to =
a various on formats but concentrate on that and only that. Meaning basical=
ly you use the power of cocoon to transform but all the surrounding that ma=
ybe needed to &quot;M - Management&quot; should be leveraged. Concentrating=
 on the core functions of a CMS.<br>
<br>
salu2<span class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>
<br>
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