[RESULT] Re: [VOTE] Move Lenya to Attic

Richard Frovarp <[email protected]> Mon, 20 Apr 2015 10:11:20 -0500
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The vote has passed. I will be submitting the resolution to the board.

On 04/14/2015 03:07 PM, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> On 14/04/15 18:19, Richard Frovarp wrote:
>> Sorry for the very late reply here. Going over our bylaws, I think 
>> that this would require consensus approval. If that is the case, this 
>> vote failed. Am I reading this right?
>
> Yes, but I hoped to have sparked much more discussions around the 
> issue. Anyway it seems that nobody wants to continue, so I change my 
> vote to -0.
>
> salu2
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Thorsten Scherler 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 24/02/15 10:39, Vik Tara wrote:
>>
>>
>>         On 23/02/15 23:24, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>
>>             -1
>>
>>             I have to admit I am not really showing the commitment
>>             for a -1 but ...
>>
>>             We have hardly discussed this vote to begin with. I heart
>>             many voice quoting that we do not use lenya as it right
>>             now, me neither. However I think the idea behind lenya is
>>             the awesome community behind it.
>>
>>             Yes, java is not sexy anymore, yes XML hype is over, but
>>             as said by Vik REST is everywhere, so why not refactor?
>>
>>         But is it a refactor - or a whole new application?
>>
>>         We moved to liferay - which is full of functionality - but I
>>         have to say sometimes a bit heavy and full of it's own quirks.
>>
>>         A very lean, html5 based application that incorporates a
>>         message bus to consume a variety of different services and
>>         output to web / mobile, now that would be more interesting.
>>
>>
>>     In my current project we are using a cqrs architecture like the
>>     one https://github.com/adrai/cqrs-sample of my colleague. You
>>     find many things like https://github.com/adrai/node-eventstore
>>     and it is round up by the use of
>>     https://www.npmjs.com/package/reflux in the front end client.
>>
>>     Everything is either a command or an event on which you - as
>>     component -  has to listen and react. We use it due to the speed
>>     of rendering over angular and better fitting in the cqrs pattern.
>>
>>     I designed some web-apps that were listing on a activeMQ queue
>>     and dispatching the work but the pattern I am ATM applying in my
>>     work is still much more scalable since you implement the
>>     authorization and business rule validations in different tiers
>>     that you just need to pipe together and decide what to send it to
>>     the bus. Anyway lenya would still be a service responding to a
>>     various on formats but concentrate on that and only that. Meaning
>>     basically you use the power of cocoon to transform but all the
>>     surrounding that maybe needed to "M - Management" should be
>>     leveraged. Concentrating on the core functions of a CMS.
>>
>>     salu2
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Thorsten Scherler <thorsten.at.apache.org
>>     <http://thorsten.at.apache.org>>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">The vote has passed. I will be
      submitting the resolution to the board.<br>
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      On 04/14/2015 03:07 PM, Thorsten Scherler wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/04/15 18:19, Richard Frovarp
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        <div dir="ltr">Sorry for the very late reply here. Going over
          our bylaws, I think that this would require consensus
          approval. If that is the case, this vote failed. Am I reading
          this right? <br>
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      Yes, but I hoped to have sparked much more discussions around the
      issue. Anyway it seems that nobody wants to continue, so I change
      my vote to -0.<br>
      <br>
      salu2<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 3:22 PM,
            Thorsten Scherler <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span
                class="">On 24/02/15 10:39, Vik Tara wrote:<br>
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                  On 23/02/15 23:24, Thorsten Scherler wrote:<br>
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                    -1<br>
                    <br>
                    I have to admit I am not really showing the
                    commitment for a -1 but ...<br>
                    <br>
                    We have hardly discussed this vote to begin with. I
                    heart many voice quoting that we do not use lenya as
                    it right now, me neither. However I think the idea
                    behind lenya is the awesome community behind it.<br>
                    <br>
                    Yes, java is not sexy anymore, yes XML hype is over,
                    but as said by Vik REST is everywhere, so why not
                    refactor?<br>
                  </blockquote>
                  But is it a refactor - or a whole new application?<br>
                  <br>
                  We moved to liferay - which is full of functionality -
                  but I have to say sometimes a bit heavy and full of
                  it's own quirks.<br>
                  <br>
                  A very lean, html5 based application that incorporates
                  a message bus to consume a variety of different
                  services and output to web / mobile, now that would be
                  more interesting.<br>
                  <br>
                </blockquote>
                <br>
              </span> In my current project we are using a cqrs
              architecture like the one <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://github.com/adrai/cqrs-sample"
                target="_blank">https://github.com/adrai/cqrs-sample</a>
              of my colleague. You find many things like <a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://github.com/adrai/node-eventstore"
                target="_blank">https://github.com/adrai/node-eventstore</a>
              and it is round up by the use of <a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/reflux"
                target="_blank">https://www.npmjs.com/package/reflux</a>
              in the front end client.<br>
              <br>
              Everything is either a command or an event on which you -
              as component -  has to listen and react. We use it due to
              the speed of rendering over angular and better fitting in
              the cqrs pattern.<br>
              <br>
              I designed some web-apps that were listing on a activeMQ
              queue and dispatching the work but the pattern I am ATM
              applying in my work is still much more scalable since you
              implement the authorization and business rule validations
              in different tiers that you just need to pipe together and
              decide what to send it to the bus. Anyway lenya would
              still be a service responding to a various on formats but
              concentrate on that and only that. Meaning basically you
              use the power of cocoon to transform but all the
              surrounding that maybe needed to "M - Management" should
              be leveraged. Concentrating on the core functions of a
              CMS.<br>
              <br>
              salu2<span class="im HOEnZb"><br>
                <br>
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