Re: Issue with Tabs EditPoint Visibility

niveditasheoran via opencms-dev <[email protected]> Thu, 16 Jul 2026 15:42:19 +0530 (IST)
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Hi Daniel,

Thanks for the pointer and the link =E2=80=94 much appreciated.

For the thread: editableby wasn't the cause in our case. The real issue was=
 the
Element view setting on the a-tabs resource type, found in the module's .co=
nfig
file at /system/modules/org.opencms.apollo.template.tabs/.config. It was se=
t to
System elements, which requires Admin-level access =E2=80=94 so the Tabs Ed=
itPoint was
filtered out for the Editor-role users, even though nested content inside t=
he
tabs (under "Content elements") remained editable.

Changing Element view to Content elements and republishing the .config fixe=
d it.

One question though =E2=80=94 since this is a module-level setting, it appl=
ies across
all sites using this tabs template. Is there any major downside or risk to
changing this Element view sitewide, or is it generally safe to leave a-tab=
s on
"Content elements" going forward?

Thanks again for the help narrowing this down.

Best regards,
Nivedita


On July 15, 2026 at 4:00 PM Daniel Seidel via opencms-dev
<[email protected]> wrote:

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>  Hi Nivedita,
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>  just a guess: The <cms:container> tag takes an attribute "editableby". If
> this is set for the nested containers and a role higher than ROLE.EDITOR =
is
> required, that could be the case.
>=20
>  Here's the documentation for the tag:
> https://documentation.opencms.org/javadoc/tld/cms/container.html
> <https://documentation.opencms.org/javadoc/tld/cms/container.html>
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>  Best, Daniel.
>=20
>  Am 15.07.26 um 12:04 schrieb niveditasheoran via opencms-dev:
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>      > >=20
> >      Hello,
> >=20
> >      I am facing an issue with the Tabs component in OpenCms.
> >=20
> >      When logged in as Admin, the Tabs EditPoint is visible and editabl=
e.
> > However, when logged in as an individual school subsite user, only the
> > Content EditPoint is displayed, while the Tabs EditPoint is not visible.
> >=20
> >      The school user is assigned the role Editor from the Root
> > Organizational Unit and has all the required permissions on the respect=
ive
> > school subsite folder.
> >=20
> >      Could you please help investigate why the Tabs EditPoint is not
> > appearing for the school subsite user, even though it is visible for the
> > Admin user?
> >=20
> >      Please let me know if any additional information is required.
> >=20
> >      Thanks & Regards,
> >      Nivedita Sheoran
> >=20
> >=20
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   <p class=3D"font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal">Hi =
Daniel,</p>=20
   <p class=3D"font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal">Tha=
nks for the pointer and the link =E2=80=94 much appreciated.</p>=20
   <p class=3D"font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal"><st=
rong>For the thread:</strong> <code class=3D"bg-text-200/5 border border-0.=
5 border-border-300 text-danger-000 whitespace-pre-wrap rounded-[0.4rem] px=
-1 py-px text-[0.9rem]">editableby</code> wasn&#39;t the cause in our case.=
 The real issue was the <strong>Element view</strong> setting on the <code =
class=3D"bg-text-200/5 border border-0.5 border-border-300 text-danger-000 =
whitespace-pre-wrap rounded-[0.4rem] px-1 py-px text-[0.9rem]">a-tabs</code=
> resource type, found in the module&#39;s <code class=3D"bg-text-200/5 bor=
der border-0.5 border-border-300 text-danger-000 whitespace-pre-wrap rounde=
d-[0.4rem] px-1 py-px text-[0.9rem]">.config</code> file at <code class=3D"=
bg-text-200/5 border border-0.5 border-border-300 text-danger-000 whitespac=
e-pre-wrap rounded-[0.4rem] px-1 py-px text-[0.9rem]">/system/modules/org.o=
pencms.apollo.template.tabs/.config</code>. It was set to <strong>System el=
ements</strong>, which requires Admin-level access =E2=80=94 so the Tabs Ed=
itPoint was filtered out for the Editor-role users, even though nested cont=
ent inside the tabs (under &#34;Content elements&#34;) remained editable.</=
p>=20
   <p class=3D"font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal">Cha=
nging Element view to <strong>Content elements</strong> and republishing th=
e <code class=3D"bg-text-200/5 border border-0.5 border-border-300 text-dan=
ger-000 whitespace-pre-wrap rounded-[0.4rem] px-1 py-px text-[0.9rem]">.con=
fig</code> fixed it.</p>=20
   <p class=3D"font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal">One=
 question though =E2=80=94 since this is a module-level setting, it applies=
 across all sites using this tabs template. Is there any major downside or =
risk to changing this Element view sitewide, or is it generally safe to lea=
ve a-tabs on &#34;Content elements&#34; going forward?</p>=20
   <p class=3D"font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal">Tha=
nks again for the help narrowing this down.</p>=20
   <p class=3D"font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal">Bes=
t regards,<br/> Nivedita</p>=20
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   <br/>On July 15, 2026 at 4:00 PM Daniel Seidel via opencms-dev &#60;open=
[email protected]&#62; wrote:
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    <p>Hi Nivedita,</p>=20
    <p>just a guess: The &#60;cms:container&#62; tag takes an attribute &#3=
4;editableby&#34;. If this is set for the nested containers and a role high=
er than ROLE.EDITOR is required, that could be the case.</p>=20
    <p>Here&#39;s the documentation for the tag: <a href=3D"https://documen=
tation.opencms.org/javadoc/tld/cms/container.html">https://documentation.op=
encms.org/javadoc/tld/cms/container.html</a></p>=20
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     <p class=3D"isSelectedEnd">Hello,</p>=20
     <p class=3D"isSelectedEnd">I am facing an issue with the <strong>Tabs<=
/strong> component in OpenCms.</p>=20
     <p class=3D"isSelectedEnd">When logged in as <strong>Admin</strong>, t=
he <strong>Tabs EditPoint</strong> is visible and editable. However, when l=
ogged in as an <strong>individual school subsite user</strong>, only the <s=
trong>Content EditPoint</strong> is displayed, while the <strong>Tabs EditP=
oint</strong> is not visible.</p>=20
     <p class=3D"isSelectedEnd">The school user is assigned the role&#160;<=
strong>Editor</strong>&#160;<strong>from the Root Organizational Unit</stro=
ng> and has all the required permissions on the respective school subsite f=
older.</p>=20
     <p class=3D"isSelectedEnd">Could you please help investigate why the T=
abs EditPoint is not appearing for the school subsite user, even though it =
is visible for the Admin user?</p>=20
     <p class=3D"isSelectedEnd">Please let me know if any additional inform=
ation is required.</p>=20
     <p>Thanks &#38; Regards,<br/> Nivedita Sheoran</p>=20
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