some newbie questions
[email protected] Tue, 13 May 2008 15:35:47 +0100
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This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00502E6380257448_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi folks. I've developed with Lotus Notes for 10 years, and I've also been working with Zope and WebObjects for 5 years. I've got the Skyrix InstantOGO installed, and that was actually a breeze and a great way to get a feel for OGO. I decided that since this was only so I could get a taste of what OGO could do, it might as well be in a virtual machine. I'm working on a Vista laptop at the moment and whilst it would not install inside Virtual PC 2007, there was no problem installing it inside Virtual Box (just in case this is useful information to anyone else). Now I have a few questions the answers to which would help me clarify my decision-making. a) does OGO still work with FrontBase (I read something about a FrontBase 2 adaptor, but I would like to know if anyone has it working with FB3 and/or FB4). In case people are unaware, The Whitemice guide seems to suggest that FrontBase still works with OGO. b) which is the best way to customize the OGO web presentation? I know I can hide individual applications from the dock on a per user basis. I see that there are .wod and .html files, and that there are also.wox files (which look like the are an amalgamation of the previous two file types). I also read that CSS was not used for styling some other configuration technique (components.cfg). However, looking at the HTML, it is clear that CSS is being used, at least for some components. Is CSS now used throughout for styling? I found two copies of components.cfg in my installation, so that makes me think it is still in use. I don't anticipate doing any localization at this point, but localization in OGO seems to follow the traditional WO pattern of different lproj directories. For the sake of cosmetic changes (fonts, colours) should I be looking at using CSS. In order to re-structure parts of the application, should I be looking at the .html/.wox files? c) I'm interested in the bundled Jabber server. I know it is running as I've telneted into it. However, using one of the OGO users I created I cannot connect to the Jabber server e.g. from iChat. Are the OGO users automatically registered with Jabberd? d) what is the best way to build external applications that interact with the OGO server. I have looked at the XML-RPC API (very impressive), and I've connected via WebDAV. I also read about zOGI, which seems to be an augmentation/supplementation of the XML-RPC API. I take it that these three are all still valid ways to build on top of OGO. The Whitemice OGO admin guide tends to suggest that XML-RPC is deprecated. Is that correct? What are the advantages/disadvantages of WebDAV vs XML-RPC vs zOGI when it comes to OGO? e) I notice that there are object version numbers as attributes of many (all?) objects in OGO. I take it that this is one of the Zope inspirations. I also see that there are comments in the 'logs' tab of the web UI that show what changes have happened between versions. However, in Zope objects can be rolled back to previous versions but I can't see anyway in OGO to revert to a previous version of an object. Moreover, when I've uploaded a file into a project, I can't see that that file becomes versioned, which I thought was one of the document management features of OGO. f) unfortunately my WebObjects knowledge is all Java-related. Is it the plan that OGO will eventually run on top of JOPE? g) if I was to make changes to the Objective-C files, are these automatically re-compiled or do I need to have an Objective-C tool-chain installed as well? Thanks for making OGO. I'm hoping that it will turn out to be the right solution for my needs. Bernard Devlin --=_alternative 00502E6380257448_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi folks. I've developed with Lotus Notes for 10 years, and I've also been working with Zope and WebObjects for 5 years. </font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I've got the Skyrix InstantOGO installed, and that was actually a breeze and a great way to get a feel for OGO. I decided that since this was only so I could get a taste of what OGO could do, it might as well be in a virtual machine. I'm working on a Vista laptop at the moment and whilst it would not install inside Virtual PC 2007, there was no problem installing it inside Virtual Box (just in case this is useful information to anyone else).</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Now I have a few questions the answers to which would help me clarify my decision-making.</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">a) does OGO still work with FrontBase (I read something about a FrontBase 2 adaptor, but I would like to know if anyone has it working with FB3 and/or FB4). In case people are unaware, The Whitemice guide seems to suggest that FrontBase still works with OGO.</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">b) which is the best way to customize the OGO web presentation? I know I can hide individual applications from the dock on a per user basis. I see that there are .wod and .html files, and that there are also.wox files (which look like the are an amalgamation of the previous two file types). I also read that CSS was not used for styling some other configuration technique (components.cfg). However, looking at the HTML, it is clear that CSS is being used, at least for some components. Is CSS now used throughout for styling? I found two copies of components.cfg in my installation, so that makes me think it is still in use. I don't anticipate doing any localization at this point, but localization in OGO seems to follow the traditional WO pattern of different lproj directories. For the sake of cosmetic changes (fonts, colours) should I be looking at using CSS. In order to re-structure parts of the application, should I be looking at the .html/.wox files?</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">c) I'm interested in the bundled Jabber server. I know it is running as I've telneted into it. However, using one of the OGO users I created I cannot connect to the Jabber server e.g. from iChat. Are the OGO users automatically registered with Jabberd? </font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">d) what is the best way to build external applications that interact with the OGO server. I have looked at the XML-RPC API (very impressive), and I've connected via WebDAV. I also read about zOGI, which seems to be an augmentation/supplementation of the XML-RPC API. I take it that these three are all still valid ways to build on top of OGO. The Whitemice OGO admin guide tends to suggest that XML-RPC is deprecated. Is that correct? What are the advantages/disadvantages of WebDAV vs XML-RPC vs zOGI when it comes to OGO? </font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">e) I notice that there are object version numbers as attributes of many (all?) objects in OGO. I take it that this is one of the Zope inspirations. I also see that there are comments in the 'logs' tab of the web UI that show what changes have happened between versions. However, in Zope objects can be rolled back to previous versions but I can't see anyway in OGO to revert to a previous version of an object. Moreover, when I've uploaded a file into a project, I can't see that that file becomes versioned, which I thought was one of the document management features of OGO.</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">f) unfortunately my WebObjects knowledge is all Java-related. Is it the plan that OGO will eventually run on top of JOPE?</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">g) if I was to make changes to the Objective-C files, are these automatically re-compiled or do I need to have an Objective-C tool-chain installed as well?</font> <br> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks for making OGO. I'm hoping that it will turn out to be the right solution for my needs.</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Bernard Devlin</font> --=_alternative 00502E6380257448_=-- -- OpenGroupware.org Discussion [email protected] http://mail.opengroupware.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss