Re: Treo & HotSync

> > > > You mean the Treo can sync WITHOUT a HotSync
> > > > desktop?  The Palm talks
> > > > 'directly' to nhsd over-the-net?  
> > > Yup!  Now how you go about it can be a little
> > tricky. 
> > This is all supported in Palm OS 5? (Based upon my
> > reading in the last hour).
> Technically, Network HotSync is in OS4+.  Palm m500,
> m505, m515 (OS4), and all Tungsten T and C series
> (OS5).  The Treo's have the same functionality on
> OS5.2.1H  You just have to configure the IP address of
> the OGo server, and the netmask. 

Much like doing LANSync via a PC attached palm.  We currently have that
working, we want to loose the "PC attached" part.  And hopefully the
implied "near 1825 Monroe St NW, Grand Rapids, MI" part as well

> There's a few more
> things to configure, but basically all they have to do
> once it's done is go to the application launcher, Tap
> the HotSync icon, and select Network HotSync.  I
> usually recommend to my clients some freeware
> applications that make it a little easier than a half
> dozen taps.

URLs? :)

> > Such as the dial-up included in a Palm phone? 
> > Niether Wi-Fi (obviously)
> > nor BlueTooth look like a way to support on-the-road
> > sales staff.
> Wrong.  If the Sales guys already have BT enabled
> cellphones, they can use the cell as a "modem", and
> connect via BT on a BlueTooth enabled handheld.

And bluetooth is a 'generally available' service, or is it a 'hotsplot'
kind of service?  There seems to be several flavors of blue tooth based
upon the lit I have in front of me.  (Bluetooth vs. Bluetooth GSM?)

> > And it seems to use a PPTP VPN, we already have a
> > server that does that.
> > :)  Nice coincidence, for once. 
> It's always nice when a plan comes together (without
> costing an arm and a leg).  Is your VPN an opensource
> one?

Yes, PoPToP.  Been using it for years.  We've had very good luck with
compatibility.

> > The Treo, I assume, can "dial" a data service provider to acquire IP
> > connectivity?  (Really don't know anything about these things, and it is
> > hard to sift through all the marketing bilge to get at
> > this-is-how-it-works).
> The Treo is essentially a modem/endpoint for the
> cellular carrier's data network.  It picks up an IP
> via DHCP, and it'll query DNS via the cellular network
> (usually via DHCP).  This also assumes that you're
> paying for the Data plan from the carrier.  

Aha!  Thats the piece I was missing:  the carrier provides some data
service.

Just for clarification:  The Treo supports a data service from your cell
phone providers,  the other devices Tungsten and such require a hostspot
(be it Bluetooth or Wifi)?

> Once you're connected, you're billed by the 'k' of traffic
> both ways.  It can access corporate resources via the
> VPN, or it can access the internet for e-mail and web
> browsing.  It all depends on how you want to configure
> it.
> Hope that helps!  

Yes.  It is the "how the phone/palm/whatever gets to the Internet" that
is/was confusing me.  I see things like "Browse The Web!", etc... but
nothing that says "This is an IP device, IP service is provided by your
cellular carrier".  I understand the 'local' access part via WiFi or
whatnot.

> (And it's useful to others on the list rather than boring them)

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