Re: Re: [OGo-Users] The new Hula project

Helge Hess wrote:

> Well, currently its mostly hype (the usual Nat&Miguel produced reality 
> distortion field also associated with v0.0.5 Mono products ;-).

Waaaay off topic, but I guess that's what this list is for? I'm glad I'm 
not the only one who sees the RDF around Mono. I think it's the wrong 
way to go, but, hey, who am I?

> Nothing of the interesting stuff is implemented, eg CalDAV or the 
> DHTML UI. But it might evolve into a pretty nice web calendar. Though 
> if you really need just simple stuff - there are already a LOT of 
> pretty nice servers listed on Freshmeat!
>
> I do not think that it can be compared to OGo, OGo is a complete 
> collaboration platform with a very different focus (towards some 
> hundreds of users which need to have rich functionality).

My take -- being overwhelmed with all the "stuff" in the OGo collection 
of packages -- meaning that I'm mad that can't get my head around all 
the tools at my disposal -- is that one, single RPM to install would be 
cool. In addition, I'm a long-time fan of SuSE, and you can bet this 
will be integrated will. However, having said that, and having been 
someone who tested the latest OGo installation process, I have to say 
that it *is* pretty easy these days.

I agree with you that trying to bundle an MTA (and everything else they 
need) is the wrong way to do it, but I think that the absolute, critical 
piece of this -- of any "groupware" or "calendar" server -- is 
integration with Outlook. I just don't see there being an excuse for not 
having this functionality. (Yeah, OGo's is proprietary, but I bought it 
and it works.) Unless they plan on releasing their version of Evolution 
for Windows at the same time Hula hits 1.0, this doesn't make any sense. 
Which is probably the case, I realize now that I write that.

> In fact a lot of their future goals are similiar to stuff already 
> implemented in the SOGo UI which we are currently finishing up. A 
> small prototype (you need to use a Gecko browser [Moz,Firefox]) is 
> running here:

What in the world? The more I find out about the OGo project, the more 
impressed I am. I think I should start subscribing to all the lists or 
something. Was this new development discussed anywhere before now? (In 
any case, THANK YOU for treating us to this, even though it's volatile.)

Regards,
dk

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