Re: New Website for opengroupware.org project

Adam Tauno Williams <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.cms.opengroupware.discuss.general
Organization Morrison Industries
Message-ID <1119902145.31075.20.camel@localhost>
> >sure. have a look here. http://plone.org/documentation 
> >the next rev of the docs site has that structure planned as soon as 2.1 goes 
> >gold with the related projects to duplicate this structure. 
> I checked that site. Three issues:
> - It feels a little slow. It would be interesting to know what server is 
> delivering the content (Squid or Plone).

It seems about normal speed to me, from where I am.

> >>At the 
> >>moment everyone is submitting some context but there is not linkage
> >>between, which is beeing done almost automatically in a Wiki. My only
> >>chance is to search and if I use different terms than the author I won't
> >>find any information.
....
> >Linkage between documents is available however most contributors have
not used 
> >that functionality. the feature exists if users were to use it,
....
> You mean it exists already? Than it might not be used because it's 
> compilcated to use or the user just is to lazy do use this, becuase he 
> just wants to put in the information and has no concept to which pages 
> it could be linked (that is what the wiki does for you) or the user 
> simply doesn't  know.

Since I'm a user/poster to the docs plone I figured I'd chime in.
(a) I haven't used the linkage features because I'm lazy.  I bothered to
organize my notes and what-not,  I really don't want to dig through
other peoples postings to see what relates to mine.  There is a search
feature,  someone with two neurons to rub together can find the content
if they bother to look.  This is just me, but I'd wager most of the
people who post in docs feel more-or-less the same way.
(b) I doubt all claims like "done almost automatically in a Wiki".  Nah!
I've used lots of Wikis that are/were a mess.  It only works if (b1) I
agree with your organization, (b2) you have created categories that
relate to what I want to post, and (b3) I understand the mind-model
behind the structure you created.

I'm not pro/anti-wiki/zope and I'm not terribly interested in UI
theme/design - I'm just tossing in my two bits from a user perspective
(and I think one with a fair amount of experience in this area).

> 1. terms problem
> 2. user might get the feeling that he can't get the imformation his 
> looking for right away. I would prefer a well organised structure where 
> the information is sorted in. I think some kind of tree where the 
> information is getting more specialised when you go downwards, like the 
> concept of the manual, with links between similar sections.
> (Sorry for all this "user might think" stuff, beside my normal job as a 
> lighting designer i am a psychological consultant, so usability is one 
> of my main concerns.)

If we are talking about www, then yes, a rigid tree is a good idea.  For
the docs sight I think "Good Luck!".

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