Re: New Website for opengroupware.org project

Helge Hess schrieb:

> On 27. Jun 2005, at 19:16 Uhr, Mario Minati wrote:
>
>> I am also not a friend of quick and dirty decisions on such  
>> important thinks.
>
>
> Well, there are a lot of nuances between pragmatic and perfect.  
> Whether a Wiki is OK just needs appropriate research.
>
>> *We should think about the needs and requirements of the website  not 
>> only in three month but also in one and two years.*
>
>
> Lets fetch my crystal ball! ;-) No, really, if you need to invest SO  
> MUCH work that you feel bad to possibily throw away the effort after  
> one or two years something is certainly going wrong.
> Being able the extract the data is also a strong requirement because  
> of just that.
>
> I would expect a few days of evaluating software and then a few days  
> of moving the content.
>
>> If there is more knowledge and manpower for a Zope/Plone based  
>> website, then it might be better also to setup the website on that  
>> system.
>
>
> I don't think that this is the case. There is certainly no knowledge  
> (at the level required) on Zope over here. I do know the software  
> design internals but have no practical experiences with it nor the  
> time, just the impressions I got from docs and the reports I get from  
> administrators.
>
> As we learned Michael has entry-level knowledge and Chris probably  
> has some advanced knowledge, but little time as well.
>
>> If there are no problems with the ogo server load.
>
>
> You can not run directly against Zope, its far too slow. But the same  
> may be true for Wikis.
> Now the question is how difficult it is to make either Zope or a Wiki  
> scale. Eg I think I've read that MediaWiki can produce static content  
> which would be perfect.
>
>> So if Helge thinks that a Zope(/Plone) system might be better  
>> becuase of the integration with docs, workflow possibilities and  
>> more possiblites as a wiki than we should start working on  that.
>
>
> Well, if you are motivated to learn Zope you might consider that. But  
> don't underestimate the amount of time required to learn it (to reach  
> a level as required here), it might be better spend on other stuff  
> (like learning WebObjects/ObjC ;-)

ACK.

>
> The decision is basically that of the contributor, in this case you.  
> If you won't do something on www, it will very likely stay as it is  
> for the foreseeable future.
>
>
> I would again like to ask all of you to put a strong focus on what is  
> actually possible with the available resources instead of discussing  
> what might be theoretically possible with one software or the other.

Ok, after read this post and your second post further down the thread I 
will setup a sample testing system with MediaWiki in the next day. It 
might be a little slow, as I don't have any space on my Xen-Servers at 
the moment and going to use an old P1/P2 something machine instead.

Have a nice day/night,
Mario
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