Re: questions about the right system...

Lars Schimmer <[email protected]> Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:45:04 +0100
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Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
>> We still run a old OGo server here which only works with lightning 0.7
>> and before.
>> Yet as we run debian there is til yet no way to upgrade via "official"
>> packages and self made packages are harder than we think about.
> 
> I don't know what "official" means but I have RPMs coming to the
> OpenSUSE build service for SuSE, openSUSE, RHEL, and CentOS.  
> <http://whitemiceconsulting.blogspot.com/search/label/opengroupware>
> Only need to finish the Env & DB setup and I'll probably have to alter
> the packages to no longer be in /usr/local as current packaging policies
> forbid that.

Yeah, but I got debian and need .deb packages.
And I do not want to fiddle around with setting up other systems or a
complete new install.
It was easy, just grab the .deb from the buildd and install them, system
updated and run (til some time around there were debian packages from
nightly builds).
Now I need to switch away from debian (no option) or setup a complete
new server to run OGo SVN on it. And no, I do not want to mess around on
the already running server with non-packages - it is always a big mess
to betray the package system with non packaged software.


> I find updating or migrating OGo to be scandulously easy compared to
> other services.  Install, point to the DB, and tar:untar/rsync/copy
> "/var/lib/opengroupware".

If you got the systems up and running, maybe. But if you got no suitable
system running, it is a mess.


>> - -we want to functions of Outlook, e.g. free/busy information, basic
>> calendar stuff, invitations, read/write rights to persons, individual
>> calendars...
> 
> I don't think that even worked with ZideLook (at least ACL stuff didn't)
> unless you used the folder tree to assign permissions [which IMO baffles
> most users].  I don't know to what extent 'fancy features' are even
> conceptually accessible via WebDAV/GroupDAV/CalDAV.

Zidelook worked partly well enough.

> Invitations are 100% a feature of the client AFAIK.   If there is a
> server side requirement for that PLEASE open a bug report and point to a
> reference document.
> 
>> - -a ressource management would be nice
> 
> I think this works currently, and has for awhile, so long as an e-mail
> address is assigned to the resource.   I often assign them something
> like resourceName@local.


Over all: there is NO really suitable calenderapp which suites our
needs, neiter OpenSource nor payware. Even outlook/exchange does not fit
(linux clients and more than one server).
It is really a mess :-(

Lets see if I setup a virt server only for OGo SVN (built from source
without packages) and try the new zideone if its available. Another 2
days go by...

MfG,
Lars Schimmer
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