Re: [OSCOM] New whitepaper on open source CMS

Hi Michi,

Thanks for your feedback.  I am planning on doing another release with
clarifications and corrections and will add this input.  In general, my goal
is to give a balanced/honest view of the projects that I cover.  Right now,
most companies that I know have very little understanding of the great
software that is out there and I am striving to be a trusted, neutral voice
helping to sort it all out.  That is rare in commercial software and I think
that most customers are done with hearing about "perfect products."  Unlike
the typical reporter or analyst, we are primarily a systems integrator so if I
steer a client in the wrong direction, I will still be around when everything
blows up and be on the hook to fix it.

Thanks again for your all of your information.

--Seth

See my comments/questions below.

> - I don't think this quotation by myself is really right resp. that I
> ever said it this way:
>
>  "The idea of Lenya is to offer a CM Framework by enhancing Cocoon,
> which incubated Lenya prior to
> release 1.2 in September 2004 by CM components, but also a CMS 'nearly
> out of the box.'"

I pulled that quote from somewhere else quite some time ago (I repurposed some
of my Lenya review from an internal review that I did quite some time ago.
Alas, I am a poor journalist because I cannot find the reference.  The wording
seems a little off so there may have been some typos at play.  I would be
happy to replace it with another quote by you.  Please send it along.

>
> It's true that we had difficulty growing the community because of its
> close ties to Wyona (and other reasons), but that
> wasn't the reason we donated it to the ASF.
>
> We were asked by the ASF to donate it (for various reasons and I believe
> we proved that it was a good choice).

This is a good clarification.  I will update.

> Third: "The largest installation is NZZ ..."
>
> well, NZZ is a large and prestigious installation, but there are many
> more if you take a closer
> look at for the live-sites page of Lenya or for instance the Wyona
> customer list/press releases, among others "Wired News" which
> is owned by Lycos and has many more pageviews than NZZ. Or Combots which
> is an offspring of Web.de and
> has the intention to become bigger than web.de ever was.
>

This came from an email out to the list a long time ago.  You suggested NZZ.
I am happy to use the Wired News reference.

> Fourth:
>
> I am not sure how to understand the sentence: "where editors and readers
> have different views of the same site."
>
> It seems to me that it is quite the opposite ....
>
What I was talking about was the editor has that top frame with the editing
controls.  I will clarify in the next release.

>
> Fifth:
>
> I think it would be worth mentioning that Lenya also has interfaces for
> Xopus, FCK and has built in form based editors.
> Also that in the 1.4.x version one can use OpenOffice resp. OpenDocument
> natively (whereas I have to admit that this
> feature isn't fully functional yes, but will be soon), but generally
> speaking Lenya allows arbitrary editor integration ...
>
I will add.  I think my information was a little out of date.
>
> Sixth:
>
> The community has certainly not slowed, but rather increased. Just take
> a look at the statitics resp. the traffic
> on the mailing list and commit messages with actual content resp,
> quality of changes.
>
I have not been following the mailing list for a couple of months, I will
re-subscribe.