Re: [OSCOM] ANN: Magnolia 3.0 Simple Enterprise Content Management released

On 23.06.2006, at 00:55, Michael Wechner wrote:

> Boris Kraft wrote:
>
>> On 22.06.2006, at 10:40, eric casteleijn wrote:
>>
>>>> The announcement clearly states that you can download the free    
>>>> community edition, which is open source.
>>>
>>>
>>> Exactly, so maybe you should limit announcements to this list to   
>>> releases of *that* edition.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>
>>
>> It is a major release, I don't get your point.
>
>
> I think the point is that you seem to announce on this list  
> proprietary software in the case of Magnolia EE.

I announced an OS software mentioning that there is also an  
enterprise edition, which is very interesting for many people  
(believe me ;-))

Maybe its not interesting for people on that list, but my stance is  
that it is
For me it is not at all about licenses. Its about free information.  
(In the sense of freedom of speech, not no cost)

> I don't have a problem if you ask people for money in order to use  
> your code (it's just fair that you are being paid), but I have a  
> problem if your license isn't OSI compliant in the case of Magnolia  
> EE, and this is what seems to me the case.
>
> Did you talk to OSI or check with their listed OSI compliant licenses?

No and I won't because it will not meet their definition. Elsewise we  
could use an existing license, but todays understanding of OS (as we  
have seen in the discussion) is too limited to allow a vendor  
friendly open source license.

I think that todays understanding of OS will vanish over time.  
Everything will be OS because its so compelling, but the vendors  
interests need to be protected, too.

So in the future, you will see open source (code) but "closed" binary  
licenses. Look at Redhat for a very successful example in that space.

Cheers
Boris