Re: [Tiki-devel] PHP-FMP multiple php version, virtualmin and resources

Joe from Virtualmin staff completed the answers:


Postfix may be useful for sending email from apps or system notifications.

Dovecot and SpamAssassin do not need to be running on a system that is not receiving or processing mail.

So I (we) know what we can get ride of.

B

> On 11 May 2021, at 14:39 , Jonny Bradley via TikiWiki-devel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Bernard
> 
> There also is a minimal install option which i think excludes the mail server, spam-assassin etc
> 
>    https://www.virtualmin.com/documentation/installation/automated#toc-full-install-vs-minimal-install-oBwnbmEV
> 
> (don't we need postfix to send notification emails out?)
> 
> jonny
> 
> 
>> On 11 May 2021, at 12:32, Bsfez Tiki <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Back with answers from virtualmin forum;
>> 
>> We need to keep alive only what we need. We can shutdown, shutdown and keep down or purge:
>> 
>>> For all of my servers, I usually go with the “apt purge” approach but if you are unsure, you can just go with the Webmin > System > Bootup and Shutdown > Tick the phpXX-fpm you want to disable> Disable Now and On Boot approach as well.
>>> 
>>> Only difference is that the Bootup and Shutdown approach won’t delete any files and dependencies of the disabled fpm version and you can re-enable them at any time without having to reinstall the extension and it’s dependencies again.
>>> 
>> 
>> —
>> 
>> By the way I checked other things like mail stuff (I don’t use mail on most of my servers)
>> 
>>> Dovecot and Postfix are installed and running on the server whether you enable them on your virtual server or not.
>>> 
>>> You can disable them in Webmin/System/Boot Up and Shutdown
>>> 
>>> Simply shut them down and uncheck the “start on startup” and they’re disabled.
>>> 
>> B
>> 
>> PS: I need to check Tiki sending mail after I shut them down to be sure….
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10 May 2021, at 14:25 , Jonny Bradley via TikiWiki-devel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have wondered the same, and i have 7.0 and 7.1 lying around doing nothing too :p
>>> 
>>> jb
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10 May 2021, at 09:46, Bsfez Tiki via TikiWiki-devel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello devs,
>>>> 
>>>> This is not directly related to Tiki but we are a few now using Tiki, Debian, MariaDB and Virtualmin so may be others have ideas and it may also help more people.
>>>> 
>>>> Since a discussion we had during a meeting (TRM I think) I switch from PHP-CGI to PHP-FMP and performance were largely improved.
>>>> Also, with Virtualmin you can run several PHP version + Virtualmin installs/update the version it needs.
>>>> 
>>>> Now I check a server and I see a lot of the memory is used by several PHP-FMP process and that I have a lot of PHP servers running.
>>>> PHP-FMP 7.2.x
>>>> PHP-FMP 7.3.x
>>>> PHP-FMP 7.4.x
>>>> PHP-FMP 8.x
>>>> 
>>>> All this on a server I have now a single Tiki22 running… while I need to keep the PHP version Virtualmin it seems I can spare some resources.
>>>> I think that I could keep alive 7.4 (for the domain) and 8.x (for virtualmin).
>>>> 
>>>> Is shutting down at bootup the other php services safe ?
>>>> (IE: php7.2-fpm, php7.2-fpm.service, etc) at Webmin => Bootup and Shutdown
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone has experience with this ?
>>>> 
>>>> Bernard
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