Re: [Tiki-devel] Meta-tags, title and description (wiki page) - add a title field

Hello Jonny,

Well yes that help to improve my actual SEO work.
I will try to see how I can integrate it without too much duplication work for each page.
Thank you.

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Still the questions remain to improve Tiki itself:

When using "Use each page description as a meta tag for that page.” (https://doc.tiki.org/Meta-Tags-Tab <https://doc.tiki.org/Meta-Tags-Tab>) it will set the header title and the header description with the same value (and so displayed on search engine results)

1/ The doc
Improve the documentation and the preference description "Use each page description as a meta tag title for that page.” And the other help, tooltips accordingly.
( I will do)

2/ The issue
- Keep it like this
- Have a specific title and description for each page (kind of mini revamp as upgrade shouldn’t break existing Tikis)
- Have a fall back (child of the preference), if "Use each page description as a meta tag title for that page.”, then “Use the Tiki description for the description of all pages" (optional, off by default)

Bernard

> On 12 Oct 2021, at 12:20, Jonny Bradley via TikiWiki-devel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bernard
> 
> Not sure i follow, but you can set the page title meta tag from plugin list, like this:
> 
>  {DIV(class="d-none")}{LIST()}
>    {pagination max="1"}
>    {OUTPUT()}{display name="mytitle" pagetitle="y"}{OUTPUT}
>    {FORMAT(name="mytitle")}This is the page title, not the wiki page title{FORMAT}
>  {LIST}{DIV}
> 
> From:
> 
>  https://doc.tiki.org/PluginList---Hacks-and-Fun#Set_the_Browser_Page_Title
> 
> Does that help?
> 
> jb
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Oct 2021, at 09:11, Bernard Sfez via TikiWiki-devel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Working on better SEO for some of my Tikis and I’m quit happy with results this I keep improving.
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> Context (in case something can be improved before to get the question):
>> I have a Tiki23 multilingual.
>> 
>> I started with a single page with translated strings.
>> I use wiki page description as page title to avoid having a unique title for all my pages (they talk bout different things)
>> I use descriptive page name.
>> I use multilingual meta-tags.
>> 
>> Results:
>> - Google results were kin with the default language (nicely ranked) while other language were… omitted (I don’t check after the 3rd page of results).
>> - It limited me in using proper and multilingual terms for different strings (title, page name, description, etc) that help to better rank the pages.
>> - It arrived a page title was in one language and description in another (Google confusion?)
>> 
>> 
>> So, I created then 3 pages, one for each language and filled the fields with strings for each languages.
>> 
>> Sometime a search result show a page title and description in one language and on click the user land on a page in a different language or a page with the language site set differently to the page.
>> I had to play a bit with i18n settings (testing required computer and browsers using different languages and location that never went on the site to be sure I had what a user or a crawler see the first time - before any personal choice)
>> (Still under test)
>> 
>> Results:
>> - Google finds the page(s) for each language.
>> - Title and Description are nicely displayed in the relevant language
>> 
>> However, it happen often, the same title with the same description is displayed on Google results. (Not nice)
>> And it kind of make sense due to the setting enabled : "Use each page description as a meta tag for that page."
>> https://doc.tiki.org/Meta-Tags-Tab
>> 
>> While the option is unclear about which meta-data will be used I found out the same value will be used for “title” and “description”.
>> And this is not good for SEO. (Not sure it hurts but it is a waste of tags)
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> Question:
>> Shouldn’t it be clever (more flexible) to have a way to set the meta-tag “title” and the meta-tag “description” for each wiki page ?
>> (IE: 2 fields on the wiki page=>Properties, one for the title value and one for the description value)
>> 
>> As tailback, in case "Use each page description as a meta tag for that page.” Is enable shouldn’t Tiki use the “standard” description instead of duplicating ?
>> IE,  when "Use each page description as a meta tag for that page.” Is enable, the wiki page description is used for the header title and the Tiki description (admin=>meta-tags=>description) is used as header description.
>> 
>> …or this is just overdoing things ?
>> 
>> Bernard
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