Re: [Tiki-devel] Admin UI friendliness

Jean-Marc Libs <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.cms.tiki.devel
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Hi Victor,

I understand the logic of hiding Tiki's complexity to newcomers and I also
agree that we lack a way of indicating to people who have been using a Tiki
for some time that they should consider changing the filter.
After all, they probably chose Tiki for its power.

One way I have been thinking of after reading your post is: when people do
a feature search in the admin panel, we could add an unobtrusive line which
tells them that they only see the results for the basic features due to
their configuration.
With a helpful link to the filter.
Since this would be shown for every feature search, it should be just a
line of text which does take as much room as info boxes!
Examples of what I have in mind  on top of the feature search (we need to
come up with our own text):
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Or like this after the feature search (which might be an empty search when
searching in "basic" mode):
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Would that help?

Cheers,
J-M

On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 9:41 AM Victor Emanouilov via TikiWiki-devel <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have stumbled upon this before as well but new Tiki users find it really
> hard to enable advanced settings when they are completely unaware of the
> fact that we hide them by default in Admin UI. Here's a recent example I
> had with someone new to TIki trying to enable the API:
>
>
> There is no clue that they need to enable advanced preferences in the
> small filter dropdown at the top left. Can we think of a more user-friendly
> way to convey this filtering options? I personally have searched for a
> setting for a few times while using Tiki and I am not even new to Tiki. Can
> you think of any good ideas to make this more user friendly? Improving the
> message on this page won't solve the issue as we have many such places in
> Tiki admin where settings are hidden and someone might be looking for them.
>
> Maybe a one-time warning message at the top that some preferences are
> hidden and they need to allow the corresponding filters to see? If they
> close the message, it shouldn't show again to stop bothering user.
>
> Regards,
> Victor
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