Re: [Tiki-devel] A default for the list of plugins, whose bodies should be indexed

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> 
> Yes, that's one of the reasons which made me think, that it's best done in
> the plugin code.

Fantastic!
> 
> Cheers,
> Volker
> 
>> Although quick wins are always good too :) 
>> 
>> Brendan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jan 11, 2023, at 7:24 AM, Volker Wysk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to volunteer to go through all 256 plugins and add searchability-
>>> by-default information. After I've dealt with my new Smartphone. Something
>>> like this:
>>> 
>>>       'searchable' => 'y',
>>> 
>>> This should take a few hours of work.
>>> 
>>> Volker
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Am Samstag, dem 07.01.2023 um 16:40 +0100 schrieb Volker Wysk:
>>>> Hi!
>>>> 
>>>> The easiest way of doing it, would be to just set a reasonable default for
>>>> the "Exclude plugins" or the "Except included plugins" setting in the Search
>>>> control panel.
>>>> 
>>>> But I'd like to suggest to do it the following way. We could have two
>>>> settings in the Search control panel: "Include plugins" and "Exclude
>>>> plugins". We'd also have defaults for all plugins, which would get
>>>> overridden by those two settings.
>>>> 
>>>> Those defaults would be set in the "wikiplugin_..._info()" function in each
>>>> plugin. We should also provide an easy way of displaying the defaults. This
>>>> could be done with a button in the Search control panel, named "Show
>>>> defaults". It would open a window, which lists all plugins enabled and
>>>> disabled by default.
>>>> 
>>>> I guess it would be rare that someone needs something different from the
>>>> default, when a reasonable default has been chosen.
>>>> 
>>>> The system wide rules of inclusion/exclusion in search, could also be
>>>> overridden by a per-occurrence attribute "searchable", the way Rick has
>>>> proposed.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Volker
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Am Freitag, dem 06.01.2023 um 18:31 -0500 schrieb Rick Sapir:
>>>>> To provide additional flexibility, would it be useful to have this 
>>>>> option on each plugin, that would override the global include/exclude list?
>>>>> 
>>>>> For example:
>>>>> 
>>>>> {DIV(searchable="y|n").....}
>>>>> 
>>>>> and the plugins noted by Volker could default to "y" (and the other 
>>>>> plugins to "n").
>>>>> 
>>>>> And this would work as an override to the global include/exclude list. 
>>>>> Just a thought....
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -R
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rick Sapir
>>>>> ricksapir.com
>>>>> @ricksapir
>>>>> 
>>>>> Creating Content -- Managing Information
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/6/2023 2:24 PM, Jonny Bradley via TikiWiki-devel wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Volker
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That sounds like a great idea and shouldn’t be too hard to do, although setting multiple choice defaults can be a little tricky I seem to recal…
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> jonny
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6 Jan 2023, at 19:09, Volker Wysk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm willing to try to check all of the plugins, so we can have a better
>>>>>>> default.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bye,
>>>>>>> Volker
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am Freitag, dem 06.01.2023 um 12:57 +0100 schrieb Volker Wysk:
>>>>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Search excludes, by default, the body parts of all Tiki plugins. You need to
>>>>>>>> manually define the list of plugins, which should be indexed (or should not
>>>>>>>> be indexed), in the Search configuration. The setting's name is
>>>>>>>> "unified_included_plugins", for the case when you want to explicitly enable
>>>>>>>> plugins, and leave all others disabled.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It is highly unintuitive, that no plugin bodies are searchable at all, by
>>>>>>>> default. There're a lot of plugins which the user will expect to be
>>>>>>>> searchable. It doesn't make sense not to include them from search. For
>>>>>>>> instance, the Font, Indent, Div and Code plugins.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I've gone through the list of Tiki Plugins and compiled a list of plugins
>>>>>>>> whose bodies should be searchable. This list isn't complete, since I didn't
>>>>>>>> read the description of all plugins. They're just too many.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Here it is:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> attach,box,code,copyright,div,dl,fancylist,fancytable,file,files,font,footnote,indent,lang,list,markdown,mono,quote,scroll,sort,split,sub,sup
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm asking the developers to include this list as a default, for the plugins
>>>>>>>> whose bodies should be included, in the next Tiki version.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Volker
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