Re: [Tiki-devel] Tiki 2FA option to have authentification code pin sent by email

Bernard Sfez via TikiWiki-devel <[email protected]> Sun, 3 Nov 2024 18:24:06 +0100
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> Are you sure this used to be in Tiki? I have no recollection of it, but there are still features in Tiki i don't know about... even now ;)

Was not in Tiki as I’m describing it. 🤭

I’m very sure that I was taking care of 2 Tiki using email confirmation for login and it was annoying me. 🤣

> Sounds like a good idea, lots of people can't remember their passwords ever so a pin-per-session thing might suit in some cases, so yes please! :p


👍

Bernard


> On 1 Nov 2024, at 18:30, Jonny Bradley via TikiWiki-devel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bernard and all
> 
> Are you sure this used to be in Tiki? I have no recollection of it, but there are still features in Tiki i don't know about... even now ;)
> 
> Sounds like a good idea, lots of people can't remember their passwords ever so a pin-per-session thing might suit in some cases, so yes please! :p
> 
> jonny
> 
> 
> 
>> On 31 Oct 2024, at 09:50, Bernard Sfez via TikiWiki-devel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Same mechanism but a little bit different here as I want to use a PIN code and not a link.
>> 
>> Bernard
>> 
>> 
>>> On 31 Oct 2024, at 6:50, Gary Cunningham-Lee <gary_c-39LOpZwlz1/[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah, ok. This seems to be called a "magic link" - https://www.keepersecurity.com/blog/2024/03/07/magic-links-what-they-are-and-how-they-work/#:~:text=A%20magic%20link%20is%20a%20type%20of%20passwordless,their%20account%20without%20having%20to%20enter%20a%20password.
>>> 
>>> -- Gary
>>> 
>>> On 10/30/2024 5:32 PM, Bernard Sfez via TikiWiki-devel wrote:
>>>> Hello Gary,
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for your question!
>>>> 
>>>> This feature isn’t related to passkeys.
>>>> 
>>>> This new functionality will be optional and will complement the existing login methods. Once implemented, users can continue logging in as usual or choose this option: after entering their username (or email, as a clever admin might set it up 😉) and optionally their password, they’ll receive a temporary code by email to complete the login.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm considering offering two options for a more secure 2FA login experience:
>>>> 
>>>> Option 1: Username + Password + PIN code (received by email)
>>>> Option 2: Username + PIN code only (bypassing the password step)
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this clarifies things!
>>>> Bernard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 30 Oct 2024, at 7:34, Gary Cunningham-Lee <gary_c-39LOpZwlz1/[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this related to passkeys? Seems like most of the discussion I see about "the end of passwords" talks about passkeys as the replacement.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Gary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/29/2024 5:53 PM, Bernard Sfez via TikiWiki-devel wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m evaluate adding a 2FA option Tiki to allow email PIN code authentication.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When a user login, a PIN code is sent to his email address (SMS can be studied too) and he has to enter it in the Tiki interface to complete login.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This kind of 2FA was working in Tiki (somewhere around version 17) but it is not anymore.
>>>>>> I don’t remember a discussion about removing or changing but, may be it was for good reasons. (Anyone?)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, as many websites today I would like to add an option to allow sending the code pin without the need of entering the “fixed” password.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> … What people think ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Bernard
>>>>>> 
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