Re: [Tiki-devel] problems with i18n.tiki.org & using *.po files

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Hi Gour,

About *"How was that generated?"*: there's a Tiki script that does that:
https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/blob/master/doc/devtools/commit_translat=
ions_by_lang.php

It's run via Tiki Scheduler (https://doc.tiki.org/Scheduler) every few days
on https://i18n.tiki.org

Also, when you contribute translations directly on https://i18n.tiki.org,
they are stored in the database, and the scheduler periodically exports
them into files (which is how that MR was generated).

For *"how to submit it back via PR/MR?"*, here is the translation-specific
process:


   - https://dev.tiki.org/Creating-or-maintaining-translations
   - https://dev.tiki.org/Git-Workflow (how contribute to the Tiki GitLab
   repository)


Alternatively, you can upload a JSON translation file via "Settings -> Edit
languages -> Upload Translations" Or continue using the interactive
translation interface.

Best,
Bruno

On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 3:58=E2=80=AFPM Sa=C5=A1a Jani=C5=A1ka via TikiWiki=
-devel <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 14:48:08 +0300
> bruno kambere <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hiya Bruno!
>
> > Thanks for digging into the translation process.
>
> It is for very selfish reason - my own needs. ;-)
>
> > Just to clarify: the documentation will be updated, it should say
> > "Settings -> Edit languages" (not "Control Panel").
>
> OK.
>
> > Regarding your first screenshot after clicking "Start translation":
> > you=E2=80=99re actually in the right place. It opens a pop-up where you=
 can
> > add translations, as shown in this short demo (quality isn=E2=80=99t gr=
eat,
> > but it illustrates the flow):
> > https://tiki.org/How-to-use-i18n.tiki.org#Using_interactive_translation
> >
>
> OK.
>
> > About your second screenshot: that looks like an issue, we=E2=80=99ll r=
eport
> > and fix it.
>
> Thank you!
>
> > And thanks for your Croatian translations already submitted via this
> > MR: https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/9824
>
> How was that generated?
>
> Btw, with the help of AI, I got a Python script to convert from/to
> Tiki/po and then loaded Croatian translation into poedit.
>
> By using LLM, I do translate and when I finish the whole translation I
> plan to do fine tuning in poedit and possibly to check whether the
> context is relevant. Moreover, I'll try to bring some consistency to
> the whole translation.
>
> Then, I'll with the help of the script will convert it back to the Tiki
> format, but the question remains how to submit it back to the Tiki via
> PR/MR ?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Gour
>
> --
> As a strong wind sweeps away a boat on the water,
> even one of the roaming senses on which the mind
> focuses can carry away a man's intelligence.
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Gour,<br><br>About <b>&quot;How was th=
at generated?&quot;</b>: there&#39;s a Tiki script that does that: <a href=
=3D"https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/blob/master/doc/devtools/commit_tran=
slations_by_lang.php">https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/blob/master/doc/de=
vtools/commit_translations_by_lang.php</a><br><br>It&#39;s run via Tiki Sch=
eduler (<a href=3D"https://doc.tiki.org/Scheduler">https://doc.tiki.org/Sch=
eduler</a>) every few days on <a href=3D"https://i18n.tiki.org">https://i18=
n.tiki.org</a><br><br>Also, when you contribute translations directly on <a=
 href=3D"https://i18n.tiki.org">https://i18n.tiki.org</a>, they are stored =
in the database, and the scheduler periodically exports them into files (wh=
ich is how that MR was generated).<br><br>For <b>&quot;how to submit it bac=
k via PR/MR?&quot;</b>, here is the translation-specific process:<br><br><u=
l><li><a href=3D"https://dev.tiki.org/Creating-or-maintaining-translations"=
>https://dev.tiki.org/Creating-or-maintaining-translations</a></li><li><a h=
ref=3D"https://dev.tiki.org/Git-Workflow">https://dev.tiki.org/Git-Workflow=
</a> (how contribute to the Tiki GitLab repository)</li></ul><br>Alternativ=
ely, you can upload a JSON translation file via &quot;Settings -&gt; Edit l=
anguages -&gt; Upload Translations&quot; Or continue using the interactive =
translation interface.<br><br>Best,<br>Bruno</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, M=
ar 24, 2026 at 3:58=E2=80=AFPM Sa=C5=A1a Jani=C5=A1ka via TikiWiki-devel &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">tikiwiki-devel@li=
sts.sourceforge.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex">On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 14:48:08 +0300<br>
bruno kambere &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
Hiya Bruno!<br>
<br>
&gt; Thanks for digging into the translation process.=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
It is for very selfish reason - my own needs. ;-)<br>
<br>
&gt; Just to clarify: the documentation will be updated, it should say<br>
&gt; &quot;Settings -&gt; Edit languages&quot; (not &quot;Control Panel&quo=
t;).=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <br>
<br>
OK.<br>
<br>
&gt; Regarding your first screenshot after clicking &quot;Start translation=
&quot;:<br>
&gt; you=E2=80=99re actually in the right place. It opens a pop-up where yo=
u can<br>
&gt; add translations, as shown in this short demo (quality isn=E2=80=99t g=
reat,<br>
&gt; but it illustrates the flow):<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://tiki.org/How-to-use-i18n.tiki.org#Using_interactive=
_translation" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://tiki.org/How-to-=
use-i18n.tiki.org#Using_interactive_translation</a><br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
OK.<br>
<br>
&gt; About your second screenshot: that looks like an issue, we=E2=80=99ll =
report<br>
&gt; and fix it.=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
Thank you!<br>
<br>
&gt; And thanks for your Croatian translations already submitted via this<b=
r>
&gt; MR: <a href=3D"https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/9824"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/me=
rge_requests/9824</a>=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
How was that generated?<br>
<br>
Btw, with the help of AI, I got a Python script to convert from/to<br>
Tiki/po and then loaded Croatian translation into poedit.<br>
<br>
By using LLM, I do translate and when I finish the whole translation I<br>
plan to do fine tuning in poedit and possibly to check whether the<br>
context is relevant. Moreover, I&#39;ll try to bring some consistency to<br=
>
the whole translation.<br>
<br>
Then, I&#39;ll with the help of the script will convert it back to the Tiki=
<br>
format, but the question remains how to submit it back to the Tiki via<br>
PR/MR ?<br>
<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
Gour<br>
<br>
-- <br>
As a strong wind sweeps away a boat on the water,<br>
even one of the roaming senses on which the mind<br>
focuses can carry away a man&#39;s intelligence.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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