Re: writing content offline

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On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 6:56 AM, Saša Janiška wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 01:08:22 -0400
> Marc Laporte wrote:
>
>
>> 15 years ago (!), we had this: https://tiki.org/wBloggar to use a
>> desktop app to publish blog posts. The code is still there:
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/
>> tiki-xmlrpc_services.php
>
> That one looks interesting, but, afaict, still does not solve problem of
> offline writing + using (some) standard markup,right?
>


I don't think I ever used. And if I did, it was 15 years ago so I
don't remember how the feature worked exactly.

My point is that there are precedents in that direction (using an
external tool to publish to Tiki).


Not that I want to prolong the discussion. But you could even install
a Tiki locally, make it all nice there, and use this:
https://doc.tiki.org/Communication-Center  Not Emacs I know, but it
gives you the real interface while being offline.



>> And in Tiki20, we'll an API for most Tiki features, for Federation
>> (sharing data between sites) and BPMN 2.0:
>> https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki20#Todo
>
> That's new for me, but still, I only need ability to use standardized markup
> for writing using my preferred (Emacs) editor.
>

I understand.


>> You tried plugins for a few year, and now you want to move. It you had
>> picked Tiki years ago, today, you wouldn't be thinking of a change.
>
> Well, my personal site is small and not problematic at all, for my business
> needs I have to create a new one and Tiki looks good, but my old content for
> non-profit site is *still* in Textpattern CMS, so despite of exploring Tiki few
> years ago, I haven't migrate to anything else.
>

ah, I see.


>> Plugins just eat up your time:
>> https://pluginproblems.com/Modules-Extensions
>
> I agree with that and that's why I did eliminate Grav from my equation.
>
>> Instead, take the time you save and contribute to Tiki :-)
>
> In another email you wrote:
>
>> Interesting to read the pros and cons of SSGs. I'd love Tiki to become a SSG:
>> https://dev.tiki.org/Static-Site-Generator
>
> and the above URL references https://github.com/sculpin/sculpin which says:
> "Sculpin takes plain old text files (Markdown, Textile, etc.) and combines them
> with Twig templates to produce a set of static HTML files that can be easily
> deployed to almost any hosting platform."
>
> so if you can assure me there is possibility to write e.g.
> (CommonMark|Extra) Markdown markup and use one's preferred editor
> (Emacs, ST3, Vim,...) and create blog posts and/or articles (not so
> important for other content, although it would be cool to use same
> markup for everything) for Tiki, then I'm sold and, yes, I'll try to
> contribute as much as I can (even learning some PHP) with full-fledged
> enthusiasm. ;)
>


To be clear: your specific requests are not on my personal or business
roadmap. It happens that I write offline, and I just copy-paste after.
Even if I didn't know the syntax by heart, I would just write text and
fix the syntax at the moment of publishing ( I do that when I need to
use other platforms ). Takes a minute or two that you need to be
online.

I understand this is very important to you. Tiki is a do-ocracy. So if
you do it, it will happen. If you don't have the skills to do it, you
can try to convince a coder somehow. Hiring them usually works :-)

What I can assure you is that:
1- A WikiPlugin (as I explained in another thread) would be accepted
to the Tiki code base, and wouldn't be a lot of work (could be done by
an intern)
2- The upcoming infrastructure improvements (ex.: Rest API) will make
your use case easier, even if they are not done for your specific use
case.



> Btw, I'm also seriously considering to try and/or use WikiSuite - looks
> terrific without too much admin overhead, no need to have nextCloud just for
> calendars/contacts etc.
>

Super!

On this topic, adding http://sabre.io/dav/ to Tiki is on the roadmap.
It will replace our old WebDAV lib, and be used to add support for
Calendars and Contacts.

Our medium/long term plan is: http://wikisuite.org/JMAP

Best regards,

Marc

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