Re: [Fwd: Creating new pages with Wyona]

Hello list members
>
>  From reading the emails from the last two weeks, I really think
> we have to do something about helping people to understand Wyona
> and to make use Wyona. I have been talking to Markus Vaterlaus about
> this topic and I suggested something like a "Hello World" in ten steps:
>
> 1) static HTML Hello World (only Cocoon)
> 2) XML, XSLT Hello World (only Cocoon)
> 3) Adding the Wyona Toolbar
> 4) Making the Hello World editable with Xopus and Bitflux
> 5) Making the Hello World publishable
> 6) Making the Hello World creatable (Hello Pluto, Hello Neptun, etc.)
> 7) Adding Access Controlling to the Hello World
>
>
I very much agree that such kind of documentation is really necessary.
I already tried to use wyona some time ago. I relaized that i first had to
learn XML/XSLT and cocoon. This knowledge is certainly a necessary
prerequisite for using wyona. With a bit more knowledgtin XML/XSLT and
cocoon I will try to use wyona and a documentation as described above
will certainly be helpful. However I miss at least one thing: the
structure of the website. I suppose that even a "simple" Hello World site
should have a distinct structure (this will help if you have to build a more
sophisticated website): Therefore

2) Create the appropriate structure .........


> Well, Markus thought this is still too complex or maybe not what
> people need to get started. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE help on this (I know
> you already do, but I think we need more input, and I am the wrong
> person for this, because I am just too blind).
>

I am not sure whether this is to complex. You shout get and idea about
XML/XSLT and cocoon independent from wyona anyway.

I propose that somebody, who is already familiar with wyona, write this
Hello World Page. Less expierenced people like me can help (depending on
the existing knowledge) to write and/or test and improve the
documentation. However, i think it is important that some expierienced
wyona user should coordinate the necessary steps:

1.) Write the HelloWorld wyona page
2.) Write a first draft of the tutorial (different people?)
3.) Test the tutorial (newbies and others?)
4.) Improve the tutorial accorind the results of the testing.
5.) .................

Best regards

Jann

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