Re: What to do to get new users

Nikolay Nikolov via fpc-pascal <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.compilers.free-pascal.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 10/17/24 10:29 AM, Nikolay Nikolov wrote:
>
> On 10/17/24 10:10 AM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote:
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>>> On Oct 17, 2024 at 4:12:08 AM, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have proposed this to the FPC core team, after some insistance I 
>>>> managed
>>>> to get a list of constraints from (if memory serves well?) 1 person.
>>>>
>>>> I admit I was put off by what I perceived to be a complete lack of
>>>> enthusiasm
>>>> for this plan in the team, so I put it in the refrigerator for the 
>>>> time
>>>> being...
>>>>
>>>> My intent is to re-start the debate on this after 3.2.4 comes out.
>>>>
>>>> Just to say that I do think the site (20+ years old?) can use an 
>>>> overhaul,
>>>> and that with the above plan, no developer time needs to be spent 
>>>> on it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> This thread is supposed to be about getting new users but I hear many
>>> people still digging their heels in on these out dated elements. A 
>>> 20 year
>>> old website can’t be good. No business would allow this so I don’t 
>>> see how
>>> it should be different for a compiler. It’s possible new potential 
>>> users
>>> get to the website and think it’s a joke and leave right then. This 
>>> is what
>>> people are like in the real word and it should be taken notice of in my
>>> opinion.
>>
>> I fully agree. It is especially true for young people.
>>
>> My wife creates websites for a living. I nearly had to re-animate her 
>> after she looked at the FPC website.
>> The FPC website is a no-go area for her since that time.
>>
>> Hence my intent to re-open the debate.
>
> I also agree. Unfortunately, as I said, compiler developers don't make 
> good web designers.
>
> Examples for bad sites (I'm repeating myself, I know):
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> https://gcc.gnu.org/
>
> https://llvm.org/
>
> But this time I'll also give some better examples:
>
> https://nim-lang.org/
>
> https://www.haskell.org/
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> https://www.rust-lang.org/
>
> https://ziglang.org/
>
> https://www.python.org/

Another example - Ada, a Pascal-like language:

https://ada-lang.io/

Nikolay

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