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Hi
Of course I agree to say that the threshold should not be changed now, it is much too late to change the rules. Anyway, it is not a beauty contest ;-) so I think it is totally normal and fair to take advantage of the rules as much as possible, and moreover walking on knees is possible for humans too, it is not an impossible or "unhuman" move.
Sorry to insist, but I think it would be very nice if the 10 or 15 best competitors could play more sets as soon as possible : a lot of robots have a very similar level, and this would also give more opportunity for robot ranked 2 to try different strategies against Bob, since the others have very few experience of playing against him. I suppose you ( Olivier ) have a lot to do already, is it very long/difficult to achieve this change in the round planning? I really think it would make the contest even more exciting.
Best,
Xavier
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> Hi,
>
> > Marton Laszlo wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Oliver,
> >>
> >> I have some questions, about a mail from the past.
> >> Mail nr.913 from the contest mailing list:
> >>
> >> "b) height threshold:" ... (I cut out from here)
> >> "... I don't want to see robot dogs appear, but rather
> >> humanoids..."
> >>
> >> Is BOB fit in humanoid "characterization"?
> >>
> >>
> > That's a very good question... I thought it was not possible to do such
> > things with the new threshold, but apparently it is...
> > However, I believe it would be unfair to change the rules (i.e.,
> > threshold) now since the contest ends up very soon... What do you all
> > think about it ?
>
> Needles to say, we think the threshold should remain for this contest.
> However, we would like to respond to the question whether Bob fits the
> definition of a humanoid. Well, on one hand it doesn't, humans normally
> do not walk on there knees. But on the other hand, if you look at the
> characteristics of the locomotion it has some human traits,
> specifically, it is stable and agile. Even though the stability is not
> due to sensing (as is the case with humans) and even though the robot
> is not walking on its feet, from an AI perspective the locomotion can
> be treated just as if it really was human. So, in a way, Bob is more
> humanoid than those robots performing turns as a separate move. Now we
> are a bit biased, but we think Bob is a pretty fair player.
>
> Best,
> Anders Lyhagen,
> Johan Larsson,
> Bob
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