Re: [argouml-dev] Release 1.0 (was - Release schedule)

Hello!

This is a tough question. I would like to see some basic things like Undo in
place before we go to 1.0. If UML2 is completed first, then I am not sure
what to do. We also have the option of going directly from 0.35.whatever to
2.0 if we think it is a good idea to have the number 2 to associate it with
UML2.

On the other hand, if someone completes a significant change, like new icons
and splash screen or a significant amount of new languages (ruby, C#, ...)
then that could also be a reason for moving to 1.0. With our dayily small
and hard to notice steps in the development it is hard to see the big
things.

For 0.34 I know of the following "big" user things:

   - Report generator (argoprint) added to the distribution.
   - Access to the German version of the User Manual directly in the Help
   menu.

Is that grand enough for the version 1.0 without Undo?

         /Linus


2011/5/26 Mark Fortner <[email protected]>

> I agree with Michiel and Bob in terms of release 1.0 with UML 1.4 and
> version 2.0 with UML 2.0 capabilities.  However, there are a number of fit
> and polish and usability issues that it would be good to deal with before a
> 1.0 release.
>
>    - We definitely need more modern icons.  The current Swing L&F icons
>    make the software look pretty dated, and I don't think that's what we want
>    to communicate in a 1.0 release.
>
>    - There's also an issue around the representation of generics in
>    collections like Maps, and in more complex "collections of collections".
>    http://argouml.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6211
>
>    - The code generation templates can generate some strange artifacts in
>    the code.
>       - [C# code templates]
>       http://argouml.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5916
>       - [Java code templates]
>       http://argouml.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6239
>
>
>    - Users don't currently have a way of creating code using a customized
>    template, this means that they can generate code that doesn't meet their own
>    coding standards.  This results in more work for the user, and kinda defeats
>    the purpose of code generation.
>
>    - It would be good to have some profiles with stereotypes to support
>    web application development.
>
>    - Support diagram-level comments (assuming the UML standards support
>    this).
>
> Most of these are out of my own personal wishlist, and I don't think they
> are necessarily tasks that are particularly onerous to do and could probably
> be accomplished within a weekend. It might be worth everyone going through
> their own wishlist and identifying which tasks are relatively short, and
> provide the most user benefit.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Bob Tarling <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> If I were to choose an option I would lean towards Michiel rather than
>> Thomas
>>
>> If we are ignoring our own internal interface issues then we should
>> have branded ourselves as 1.0 long ago so why should we now wait.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On 25 May 2011 15:17, Thomas Neustupny <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > it's clear that we have not yet an agreed decision about that. So here
>> is another (my) opinion on 1.0:
>> >
>> > I'd vote for a 1.0 release when we have:
>> > 1. stable UML2 support with all diagrams and OCL
>> > 2. Undo/Redo
>> >
>> > I don't think UML 1.4 is enough for a 1.0 release in 2011, we're years
>> too late for that.
>> >
>> > I also don't think that internal interfaces are to be considered for the
>> 1.0 release, because a "1.0" clearly should address users, not developers.
>> Also eclipse integration or integration of/into other frameworks (e.g. GEF
>> substitution) are not criteria in my eyes.
>> >
>> > For marketing reasons, one could also consider visual changes that will
>> come with 1.0, but this is not what I'd be interested in. Maybe a new
>> logo/splashscreen. I don't care too much here.
>> >
>> > Just my 2 cents.
>> >
>> > Thomas
>> >
>> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> >> Datum: Wed, 25 May 2011 14:38:44 +0200
>> >> Von: Michiel van der Wulp <[email protected]>
>> >> An: [email protected]
>> >> Betreff: Re: [argouml-dev] Release 1.0 (was - Release schedule)
>> >
>> >> On 25-05-11 13:31, Bob Tarling wrote:
>> >> > 3. ASAP
>> >> >
>> >> > As an application ArgoUML is stable and improving. So moving to
>> >> > release 1.0 promotes that stability to the users. The users don't
>> >> > really care that our internal interfaces are not particularly well
>> >> > defined.
>> >>
>> >> Hmmm,  I would like to have ArgoUML 1.0 now as the stable release to
>> use
>> >> for UML 1 and then after a while ArgoUML 2.0 as the first stable
>> release
>> >> supporting UML2...
>> >> Yes, V1.0 ASAP.
>> >> Michiel
>> >>
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