Re: [argouml-dev] The Jenkins + Gerrit server

Mark Fortner <[email protected]> Wed, 23 Sep 2015 17:19:10 -0700
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Linus,
I have a friend who works at CloudBees.  He said that as an open source
project all we need to do is apply here:
https://www.cloudbees.com/resources/foss/sign-up
Once the account is setup, then you point the jenkins server at a code
repo, and setup a build schedule.  If you need help, let me know and I'll
forward you his contact details off-list.

Cheers,

Mark


On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Christian Heinrich <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Linus,
>
> yes, travis-ci is a different framework; and it only works with GitHub,
> IIRC. You configure it by adding a travis-ci.yml file, I think, and then
> you tell travis what your repository is called.
>
> Personally, I have no experience with travis-ci, as we also use Jenkins
> for our research project.
>
> So, having said that, I think sticking with Jenkins is the best choice
> overall as there isn't really anyone here who knows travis-ci.
>
> Now, as codebetter is still serving 503's, I think we should go with
> cloudbees.com. On the other hand, if we're going to use JIRA as a
> bugtracker, we also might check if bamboo (Atlassians continuous
> integration service) is available for free and if it's sufficient for
> us.
>
> Best regards
> Christian
>
> On Sun, 2015-05-24 at 14:44 +0200, Linus Tolke Tigris wrote:
> > Hi Christian!
> >
> >
> > After looking a little closer I get the feeling that travis-ci.org is
> > not a site running Jenkins but something else. That would make the
> > migration work even bigger than I thought it would be.
> >
> >
> > What are your experiences around running this? Are they for
> > maven-based builds?
> >
> >
> > How about findbugs and checkstyle, do they run in travis-ci.org from
> > within the maven-based builds with nice reports? Do travis-ci.org
> > provide a repository for maven snapshots?
> >
> >
> >         /Linus
> >
> >
> > 2015-05-21 15:04 GMT+02:00 Christian Heinrich
> > <[email protected]>:
> >         Hi!
> >
> >         Any decision made regarding this?
> >
> >         There is also travis-ci.org, but I think it requires a GitHub
> >         account.
> >         (Any specific reason for not moving to GitHub? It might be
> >         interesting
> >         to use this huge platform for collaboration)
> >
> >         Best regards
> >         Christian
> >
> >         On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 01:15 +0100, Linus Tolke Tigris wrote:
> >         > Hi!
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > Looks like there are two alternatives. Cloudbees as the big
> >         company
> >         > and Codebetter as a smaller one. Anyone with experience from
> >         any of
> >         > them?
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >         /Linus
> >         >
> >         > 2015-02-25 12:23 GMT+01:00 Bob Tarling
> >         <[email protected]>:
> >         >         More specifically for open source -
> >         >
> >         >
> >
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6958286/free-build-server-service-for-opensource-projects
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >         On 25 February 2015 at 00:06, Mark Fortner
> >         >         <[email protected]> wrote:
> >         >                 Hi Linus,
> >         >                 Here are some
> >         >                 ideas:
> >
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10012397/are-there-any-reputable-hosted-cloud-based-jenkins-services-available
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >                 Cheers,
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >                 Mark
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >                 On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Linus Tolke
> >         Tigris
> >         >                 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >         >                         Hello all!
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >                         A few weeks ago my cheapo PC running
> >         Jenkins
> >         >                         and Gerrit for argouml stopped being
> >         bootable.
> >         >                         It wasn't really unexpected for me
> >         since it
> >         >                         has had regular disk errors for a
> >         year or so.
> >         >                         Alas, this means that we no longer
> >         have any
> >         >                         Jenkins server doing builds so no
> >         updated
> >         >                         snapshots will be created for the
> >         maven builds
> >         >                         and there is no gerrit server.
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >                         I don't think it is a good idea
> >         getting the
> >         >                         computer to work again. It is old
> >         (Pentium4,
> >         >                         2.6GHz).
> >         >
> >         >                         What shall we do? Are there any
> >         build services
> >         >                         available for open source projects
> >         that we
> >         >                         could use? Should we by commercial
> >         services
> >         >                         for this? Could someone volunteer
> >         some server
> >         >                         capacity for this?
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >                         /Linus
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Linus,</div>I have a friend who works at CloudBees.=
=C2=A0 He said that as an open source project all we need to do is apply he=
re:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.cloudbees.com/resources/foss/sign-up">https=
://www.cloudbees.com/resources/foss/sign-up</a><div>Once the account is set=
up, then you point the jenkins server at a code repo, and setup a build sch=
edule.=C2=A0 If you need help, let me know and I&#39;ll forward you his con=
tact details off-list.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div>Mark<br>=
<br></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Christian H=
einrich <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
 solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Linus,<br>
<br>
yes, travis-ci is a different framework; and it only works with GitHub,<br>
IIRC. You configure it by adding a travis-ci.yml file, I think, and then<br=
>
you tell travis what your repository is called.<br>
<br>
Personally, I have no experience with travis-ci, as we also use Jenkins<br>
for our research project.<br>
<br>
So, having said that, I think sticking with Jenkins is the best choice<br>
overall as there isn&#39;t really anyone here who knows travis-ci.<br>
<br>
Now, as codebetter is still serving 503&#39;s, I think we should go with<br=
>
<a href=3D"http://cloudbees.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">cloud=
bees.com</a>. On the other hand, if we&#39;re going to use JIRA as a<br>
bugtracker, we also might check if bamboo (Atlassians continuous<br>
integration service) is available for free and if it&#39;s sufficient for<b=
r>
us.<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
Christian<br>
<div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Sun, 2015-05-24 at 14:44 +0200, Linus Tolke Tigris wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Christian!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; After looking a little closer I get the feeling that <a href=3D"http:/=
/travis-ci.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">travis-ci.org</a> is<b=
r>
&gt; not a site running Jenkins but something else. That would make the<br>
&gt; migration work even bigger than I thought it would be.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; What are your experiences around running this? Are they for<br>
&gt; maven-based builds?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; How about findbugs and checkstyle, do they run in <a href=3D"http://tr=
avis-ci.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">travis-ci.org</a> from<br=
>
&gt; within the maven-based builds with nice reports? Do <a href=3D"http://=
travis-ci.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">travis-ci.org</a><br>
&gt; provide a repository for maven snapshots?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/Linus<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2015-05-21 15:04 GMT+02:00 Christian Heinrich<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">christian@gladbachcit=
y.de</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Any decision made regarding this?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0There is also <a href=3D"http://travi=
s-ci.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">travis-ci.org</a>, but I thi=
nk it requires a GitHub<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0account.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(Any specific reason for not moving t=
o GitHub? It might be<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0interesting<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to use this huge platform for collabo=
ration)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Best regards<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Christian<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 01:15 +0100, Li=
nus Tolke Tigris wrote:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; Hi!<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; Looks like there are two alterna=
tives. Cloudbees as the big<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0company<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; and Codebetter as a smaller one.=
 Anyone with experience from<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0any of<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; them?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
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=A0/Linus<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; 2015-02-25 12:23 GMT+01:00 Bob T=
arling<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bob.tarling@gma=
il.com">[email protected]</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0More specifically for open source -<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://stackoverflow.com/=
questions/6958286/free-build-server-service-for-opensource-projects" rel=3D=
"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6958286/f=
ree-build-server-service-for-opensource-projects</a><br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
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=A0On 25 February 2015 at 00:06, Mark Fortner<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Linus,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Here are some<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ideas:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://stackoverflow.com/q=
uestions/10012397/are-there-any-reputable-hosted-cloud-based-jenkins-servic=
es-available" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://stackoverflow.com=
/questions/10012397/are-there-any-reputable-hosted-cloud-based-jenkins-serv=
ices-available</a><br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cheers,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Mark<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Linus Tolke=
<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Tigris<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">linu=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hello all!<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0A few weeks ago =
my cheapo PC running<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jenkins<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and Gerrit for a=
rgouml stopped being<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0bootable.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0It wasn&#39;t re=
ally unexpected for me<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0since it<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0has had regular =
disk errors for a<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0year or so.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Alas, this means=
 that we no longer<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0have any<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jenkins server d=
oing builds so no<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0updated<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0snapshots will b=
e created for the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0maven builds<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and there is no =
gerrit server.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
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