Re: [-3102]: Invalid subtrans structure / update / column of type LONG / JDBC

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Hello Alexander,

Thank you, that's what I thought and helps to understand what happens. 
(Of course we can implement such a workaround.)

But as I understand it, this would only affect performance when LONG 
data is written, is that correct?

So if statement 'A' writes LONG data and statement 'B' is any other 
write operation (without LONG data), I think the following can happen:

         Thread 1:                       Thread 2:
A.executeUpdate (start)*
   ...
   ...                                     B.executeUpdate();
   ....
A.executeUpdate (end)*

(*one single statement that needs more time to be executed than statement B)

As the driver releases the LOCK on the Connection-Object between 
start/end, other Threads can execute statements using the same 
connection that will not affect statement A, as long as not the same 
database-table is concerned [or perhaps the same row of this table is 
concerned].

But if B.executeUpdate() writes to the same table [same row of that 
table], this could lead to the posted problem.

Is my understanding correct? Do you always synchronize on the 
Connection-Object?


If so, there would perhaps be a more efficient way to synchronize so 
that Thread-2 can still execute Updates as long as we know that this can 
not cause any problem with the statement A.executeUpdate (in the example 
above).

If my understanding is correct, I can perhaps propose a way to 
synchronize this (just as an idea - of course I don't know the details 
of the driver implementation and thus don't know if my proposal will be 
the best way).

Regards,
Gabriel Matter
Invoca Systems

Schroeder, Alexander wrote:
> Hello Gabriel,
>
> writing LONG data creates an internal subtransaction in the database, which may be harmed 
> by other commands which were sent on the same connection at the time LONG data is sent in 
> several packets.
>
> The only workaround in the driver would be to synchronize the full execution of the 
> statement, and not only synchronize the single request/reply operation. We *may*
> do this, but we have to check the performance implications before making such a change,
> as this would punish every execute/executeBatch with a synchronized block on the 
> connection, and not very many people use a session from two threads at the same time.
>
> A workaround would be to wrap calls to the executeXYZ methods with a 
> synchronization block on the connection, that is, instead of
>
> statement.execute();
>
> use
>
> synchronized(statement.getConnection()) {
>     statement.execute();
> }
>
> Regards
> Alexander Schröder
> SAP DB, SAP Labs Berlin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Mittwoch, 22. November 2006 11:41
> To: [email protected]; Schroeder, Alexander
> Cc: Paskamp, Marco
> Subject: Re: [-3102]: Invalid subtrans structure / update / column of type LONG / JDBC
>
> Hello,
>
> By the way: I guess that the reason for this error is the same like the 
> one that I reported yesterday (Thread: Re: Strange: Error -7065 SAP 
> DBTech SQL: [-7065] SUBTRANS COMMIT/ROLLBACK).
>
> I did not yet have a look at the implementation for these methods:
>
>   PreparedStatement prep = ...; prep.setBytes(int parameterIndex, byte 
> x[]); prep.executeUpdate();
>
> But what I guess is, that writing the byte[] to the database is somehow 
> handled asynchronously but not Thread save.
>
> If I can provide code/a JDBC trace to reproduce the problem, I'll do, of 
> course. Unfortunately I failed to reproduce the problem by extracting 
> the portion of code that should produce the error (perhaps because it 
> depends on the timing between the call of these statements).
>
> Best regards,
> Gabriel Matter
>
> Schroeder, Alexander wrote:
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>> could you run the example with a JDBC trace? (And supply a definition of the
>> table that is affected?)
>>
>> Regards
>> Alexander Schröder
>> SAP DB, SAP Labs Berlin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> Sent: Donnerstag, 4. Mai 2006 16:05
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [-3102]: Invalid subtrans structure / update / column of type LONG
>> / JDBC
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I guess that there is a bug that causes the above exception (error 
>> message "[-3102]: Invalid subtrans structure") when a row containing a 
>> column of type LONG is updated. But it seems that this error is thrown 
>> only under certain conditions.
>>
>> - the exception occurs only if the value of the LONG-column is NOT NULL.
>> - the exception is thrown only when using a certain sequence of statements.
>>
>> In our example the exception is thrown using the following sequence:
>>
>> SELECT: we read the last row's primary key of that table
>> INSERT: we insert the new row containing some data for the column of 
>> type LONG [prep.setBytes(byte[])]
>> UPDATE: we update the inserted row while all non-key columns are updated 
>> (altough the byte[]-content remains the same)
>>
>> -> If we place another SELECT-statement between the above INSERT and 
>> UPDATE statement that reads the inserted row from the database, the 
>> exception is *not* thrown.
>>
>> -> Altough the exception is thrown, the update is done correctly in our 
>> example
>>
>> We use JDBC driver 7.6.0   Build 012-000-004-339 on MaxDB Kernel 7.5.0 
>> Build 034-121-118-234
>>
>> I found that there was a similar problem posted on 2003-03-03 and 
>> possibly the same problem was the cause of this report: 
>> http://lists.mysql.org/maxdb/19277 (28.11.2003)
>>
>> Perhaps I'll be able to post a program/tabledefinition that can 
>> reproduce the problem.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Gabriel Matter
>>   
>>     
>
>
>   


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