Re: gui-tool?

Hello List:

I have another thought. Is there any problem if;

1. I use GUI-Tools for System Health, Session Monitoring, etc; and
2. Use Navicat for designing and setting up the tables?

Sam

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Whisler, Dave wrote:
> Sam & Brandon,
>
> I have to agree with you both.   I use the MySQL Administrator and for
> some things it works okay, but certain functions are definitely
> unstable.   The User Account portion of this tool is particularly evil!
> I've used it to create or modify user accounts (add/remove host entries
> from a user) and have some really bad things happen with no explanation
> or error message from the tool.   The user list does not change unless
> you manually tell it to refresh.   The "clone user" feature seems to be
> particularly dangerous to use.  Its crashed on me several times (I gave
> up on it).   Until they fix this, I'm using other methods to
> create/modify accounts.
>
> However, I really do love the System Health, Session monitors and schema
> mgmt in MySQL Administrator - most other tools aren't as nice in this
> area.   
>
> Both Navicat and SQLyog are pretty nice Admin GUI's, though each of
> these 3 tools has their strong features, but then has some lame ones.
>
> If only MySQL would just fix the bugs and add some more features that
> the competition has, then it would be a great tool.
>
> David K. Whisler
> Oracle & MySQL Database Adminstrator & Developer
> The William States Lee College of Engineering
> UNC Charlotte
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Whitehead [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 3:40 PM
> To: Just E. Mail
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: gui-tool?
>
> Sam,
>
> You are not alone.
>
> I've been using the GUI tools for quite some time, and I find them to  
> be unstable at best. (Sorry MySQL guys.) Specifically, they crash a  
> lot for no apparent reason on my Mac.  I've tried multiple versions of  
> the tools on multiple version of MacOS.  I'm not exactly sure of the  
> problem, but generally the applications quit unexpectedly. Thus, I use  
> them with a large grain of salt and the general expectation that they  
> will crash when its most inconvenient. In addition, the usability is  
> limited by inconsistent rendering of SQL in Administrator and the  
> omission of basic clipboard copy functionality of the results pane in  
> Query Browser.
>
> That said, given MySQLs OSS roots, I think most long term users use  
> the tools from the command line, which is almost perfectly reliable.   
> If my memory serves me, MySQL/Sun have recently made it easier to  
> engage community involvement in the development of the tools, and I  
> would expect that to help.
>
> In the meantime, you can use Navicat, which is inexpensive, or become  
> more well versed at the command line.  If I recall, there may also be  
> some plug-in capabilities for Eclipse.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Brandon K. Whitehead
> University of Washington
>
> On Jan 9, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Just E. Mail wrote:
>
>   
>> Hello:
>>
>> I am not trying to offend anybody. Please read and help me.
>>
>> I have a new CentOS 5.2 installation with MySQL 5.1 and Gui- 
>> Tools5.1. I
>> have tried to setup a test table using Gui-Tools. It seems that the
>> Gui-Tools documentation is too little and the screen shots do not  
>> match
>> with the written documentation. This leaves me with the following  
>> choices:
>>
>> 1. Consult MySQL 5.1 documentation and setup table manually (it is
>> difficult because this is my first encounter with MySQL;
>> 2. Look for other documentation/samples/tutorials for Gui-Tools! For
>> this recommendation I need some direction pointing me towards these
>> documents/samples/tutorials;
>> 3. Try Navicat (except I have no money to spend).
>> 4. Try PostgreSQL & hope that they have better GUI tools.
>>
>> Please help. Send me a direct email if you want to reply to me  
>> directly.
>> I have already spent 2-3 weeks on this problem.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>>
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