Re: why not use a repo?

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On Wednesday 02 December 2009 07:21:08 pm Alfredo Kojima wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > On Wednesday 02 December 2009 01:49:01 pm Carl Karsten wrote:
> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Dennis Gilmore <[email protected]>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 01 December 2009 05:24:00 pm Carl Karsten wrote:
> >>>>> Please get your copy from our Download
> >>>>> http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/
> >>>>
> >>>> That does not give you away to download the beta.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you don't pay attention, you get
> >>>>
> >>>> mysql-workbench-oss-5.1.18a-1ubu904-amd64
> >>>>
> >>>> "Error: A later version is already installed"
> >>>>
> >>>> Will someone explain again why this isn't in a repo?  downloading
> >>>> binaries from an FTP mirror is so 1900's.  Not being able to
> >>>> download
> >>>> is so home grown.  can we blame Oracle?
> >>>
> >>> I am working to get mysql-workbench into fedora.  so you can just
> >>> do a
> >>> "yum install mysql-workbench" its currently waiting on a review for
> >>> inclusion.
> >>
> >> I am guessing the review includes looking at the license to make sure
> >> it is distributable?  If so, let me know how that goes.  If it is
> >> allowable, I'll put it in my PPA and submit it to Ubuntu for the
> >> Universe repo.
> >
> > thats part of it.  one thing that will make it harder is the
> > bundling of other
> > projects in the source tree. its a bad practice that utimately leads
> > to
> > unintended consequences.  Can someone explain to me why the tarball
> > has copies
> > of cppconn
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> This is not included in most distributions, including Ubuntu.
> Specially in the version we need.
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patching things to work with the system libraries.  bundling libraries viol=
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> >  ctemplate
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> Ditto. When we started using it, no distro was shipping it.
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> >  curl libsigc++
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> These are not built in Linux, it's for the Windows build.
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> >  python
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> ?? This is not included in any form.
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> > scintilla
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> There are modifications to this, esp. for the Mac port, for which we
> had to code support for Cocoa ourselves.
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> > silvercity  yassl
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> Does any distro ship these?
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need to yank it all out and patch everything to work with system versions.

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> If the package is to be included in some distribution, they're free to
> patch the configure file and
> simply use whatever they ship, of course. If it is really the case
> that they ship everything that's needed.

If we dont ship it it needs to be included.  Distros not shipping it really=
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of them fedora has ctemplate.=20
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> mysqldev@gui-srva-vm-ubu910i386:~$ apt-cache search yassl
> mysqldev@gui-srva-vm-ubu910i386:~$ apt-cache search silvercity
> mysqldev@gui-srva-vm-ubu910i386:~$ apt-cache search ctemplate
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> > Dennis
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> --
> Alfredo Kojima, Senior Software Developer
> MySQL Developer Tools
> Database Group, Sun Microsystems
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