Re: Local User Groups - advocacy
Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> Thu, 30 Jan 2020 15:04:30 +0000
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--000000000000c6a175059d5cc683 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Jonathan, All, To take our discussion on this thread further, I went through the content on the wiki page and rewrote it a bit. https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual I made five sections, keeping in mind what I'd see going on the postgres.org website PUG page <https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/>: 1. Small blurb at the top (see under *creating a new user group*) 2. *Starting your PUG* (guides you through the process of creating all needed resources and announcing the group to the community) 3. *Holding your first meetup* (talks about different organisational aspects of a meetup, how to get funding, and where to announce) 4. *Holding more meetings *(a general guidance on holding meetup series) 5. *Useful links *(this needs more links, examples of active user group pages, checklists, articles about choosing topics for PUG meetings and how to run them. *If anyone has good examples for it, could you please ad the link to the wiki * https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual#Useful_Links *or send it to this thread and I'll add*.) I left Notes and Brain Dump, they do have some useful nuggets of information, but I think it'd be too much for the website. *It definitely needs a proof, so if anyone can help with that it would be great.* Once on the website, I have a few ideas that could bring this section of the website to live a bit more (an animation to explain the process and maybe series of video interviews with those who have experience organising PUG meetings)... "You may say I`m a dreamer; but I`m not the only one." :) Cheers, Valeria On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:59 PM Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Hi Umair, > > > > Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page. > > Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on > > the main website? > > > > I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it > > here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least > > provide a link to wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would > > liek to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally, > > think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the > > community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for > > information like that on the main website.). > > > > All, > > what do you think? > > > > > > Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only > > useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have > > some vague notion of how to search for it. > > > > +1 for the main page > > I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for > changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do > something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015. > > That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for > how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have > some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to > modify a Wiki page than the website. > > Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We > can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual" > page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that. > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > --000000000000c6a175059d5cc683 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi=C2=A0Jonathan, All,</div><div dir=3D"l= tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To take our discussion on this thread=C2=A0f= urther, I went through the content on the wiki page and rewrote it a bit.= =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Us= erGroupOperatingManual">https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperating= Manual</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>I made five sections, k= eeping in mind what I'd see going on the <a href=3D"http://postgres.org= ">postgres.org</a> website<a href=3D"https://www.postgresql.org/community/u= ser-groups/"> PUG page</a>:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Small blurb at the = top (see under <b>creating a new user group</b>)=C2=A0</div><div>2. <b>Star= ting your PUG</b> (guides you through the process of creating all needed re= sources and announcing the group to the community)</div><div>3. <b>Holding = your first meetup</b> (talks about different organisational aspects of a me= etup, how to get funding, and where to announce)</div><div>4. <b>Holding mo= re meetings </b>(a general guidance on holding meetup series)</div><div>5. = <b>Useful links </b>(this needs more links, examples of active user group p= ages, checklists, articles=C2=A0about choosing topics for PUG meetings and = how to run them. <b><font color=3D"#ff0000">If anyone has good examples for= it, could you please ad the link to the wiki=C2=A0</font></b><a href=3D"ht= tps://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual#Useful_Links">https= ://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual#Useful_Links</a>=C2=A0= <b><font color=3D"#ff0000">or=C2=A0send it to this thread and I'll add<= /font></b>.)</div><div><br></div><div>I left Notes and Brain Dump, they do = have some useful nuggets of information, but I think it'd be too much f= or the website.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><b><font color=3D"#ff0000">I= t definitely needs a proof, so if anyone can help with that it would be gre= at.</font></b></div><div><br></div><div>Once on the website, I have a few i= deas that could bring this section of the website to live a bit more (an an= imation to explain the process and maybe series of video interviews with th= ose who have experience organising PUG meetings)... "You may say I`m a= dreamer; but I`m not the only one." :)=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div= >Cheers,</div><div>Valeria</div><div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot= e"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:59 PM Jon= athan S. Katz <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">jkatz@postgresql.= org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg= in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e= x">Hi,<br> <br> On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote:<br> > <br> > <br> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <<a href=3D"mailto:vk@d= ataegret.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> > <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">vk@da= taegret.com</a>>> wrote:<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Umair,<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super u= seful page.<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Do you know if there is a particular reason why thi= s info is not on<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the main website?<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think it's super useful, so maybe we could pu= t it<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0here:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.postgresql.org/co= mmunity/user-groups/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.post= gresql.org/community/user-groups/</a>=C2=A0or at least<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0provide a link to wiki (I guess, it depends whether= or not we would<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0liek to keep using wiki for instructions like that = - I personally,<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0think we shouldn't since only those who are alr= eady involved in the<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0community would be aware of wiki, others will most = probably look for<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0information like that on the main website.).=C2=A0<= br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0All,=C2=A0<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0what do you think?<br> > <br> > <br> > Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is onl= y<br> > useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have= <br> > some vague notion of how to search for it.=C2=A0<br> > <br> > +1 for the main page<br> <br> I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for<br= > changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do<br= > something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015.<b= r> <br> That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for<br= > how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have<br> some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) = easier to<br> modify a Wiki page than the website.<br> <br> Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We<br= > can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual&q= uot;<br> page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that.<br> <br> Thanks,<br> <br> Jonathan<br> </blockquote></div></div> --000000000000c6a175059d5cc683--