Re: postgres has no spinlock support on riscv rv64imafdc
Merlin Moncure <[email protected]> Fri, 13 Dec 2019 21:26:17 -0600
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On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Tom Lane <[email protected]> wrote: > Andres Freund <[email protected]> writes: > > On 2019-10-18 09:00:23 +0200, Tom Lane wrote: > >> TBH, though, my preference would be for some assembly code rather than > >> relying on GCC builtins as Richard's patch did. > > > -1. I think there's good arguments for using inline assembly on > > platforms where we've done so historically, and where we have to support > > old compilers without good support for intrinsics/builtins. But I see > > very little reason for adding more such cases for newer platforms - > > doing so correctly and efficiently is substantial work and fragile. > > The reason I'm skeptical of that line of argument is that gcc's track > record for support of these intrinsics on non-mainstream architectures > is just sucky. Now maybe, somebody was careful and it all works great > on RISC-V. But IMO, the burden of proof is to show that the intrinsics > work, not to show that they don't. > > I recall Noah's recent argument in a related context that with an > asm implementation, anybody with a copy of the architecture manual > can review/verify the code; and such a verification doesn't depend > on which compiler version you're using. If we depend on gcc intrinsics, > we've basically got zero confidence about anything except from testing. Do our regression tests exercise the quality of the intrinsic implementation? merlin