Re: bcp problems

Panos Stavroulis <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.db.tds.freetds
Message-ID <[email protected]>
A key point here might be the size of the C structure I use to save the data. For field 10 stays 31 both for datetime and char cases. Maybe I've got this wrong and I should use a different length when using the datatime definition? I've actually tried 24 - 20 but that was before the fix in bcp.c. 
--- On Tue, 28/6/11, Panos Stavroulis <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Panos Stavroulis <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [freetds] bcp problems
> To: "FreeTDS Development Group" <[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, 28 June, 2011, 10:42
> Hi Bill,
> 
> I didn't change anything except for defining the #temp
> table with the datetime field No 10 as varchar instead of
> datetime. Field 10 appears to work properly in both cases.
> 
> The value of field 11 when is populated properly is:
> 00000000000000008689.
> 
> Hope that helps you. Thank you.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Panos.
> 
> --- On Fri, 24/6/11, Thompson, William <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Thompson, William <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [freetds] bcp problems
> > To: "'FreeTDS Development Group'" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Friday, 24 June, 2011, 10:26
> > Hi Panos,
> > 
> > well that's an interesting effect, and no mistake.
> > when you get back to it, here's some observations /
> > questions.
> > 
> > I presume that the "source" data, i.e. the data you
> are
> > tying to bcp into the table #trans_bcp
> > is unchanged in both scenarios - changing the target
> table
> > column definition for field 10 can't affect that.
> > So the data for field 10 is still held in your
> program
> > storage as a null terminated character string "28 Apr
> > 2011".
> > Presumably the data for field 11 is also unchanged.
> > 
> > In the failure scenario, we definitely do not appear
> to
> > have any data for field 11.
> > All the evidence suggests that it has a terminator at
> the
> > first position.
> > 
> > So in the successful scenario, you say field 11 now
> gets
> > populated with a value.
> > What is that value ?
> > 
> > Could you snip the log for the successful scenario ?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of Panos Stavroulis
> > Sent: 24 June 2011 09:09
> > To: FreeTDS Development Group
> > Subject: Re: [freetds] bcp problems
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Bill,
> > 
> > Thank you, I do understand the reason for the below.
> It's
> > just because by changing the #trans_bcp table
> definition
> > from datetime to char(30) for field no 10 it makes
> field no
> > 11 to be populated with a value (not null value)
> properly. I
> > will revisit the issue later, when I resolve some
> more
> > pressing issues!!
> > Thank you again.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Panos.
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 22/6/11, Thompson, William <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Thompson, William <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [freetds] bcp problems
> > > To: "'FreeTDS Development Group'" <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Wednesday, 22 June, 2011, 15:52
> > > Hi Panos,
> > >
> > > This new error looks pretty clear to me. I'm not
> sure
> > it
> > > has anything to do with the date field, though.
> > > The processing of the data in the date field
> looks as
> > if
> > > it's going fine...
> > >
> > > bcp.c:3404:_bcp_get_col_data(46eb0, 596c60)
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 0 , value =>2<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 1 , value =>8<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 2 , value => <
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 3 , value =>A<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 4 , value =>p<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 5 , value =>r<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 6 , value => <
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 7 , value =>2<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 8 , value =>0<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 9 , value =>1<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 10, value =>1<
> > > bcp.c:3463:_bcp_get_col_data bytes_read: 11,
> > > terminator><
> > > bcp.c:3469:_bcp_get_col_data collen: 11,
> > >
> > > -- we've read 11 characters "28 Apr 2011"
> > >
> > > dblib.c:2144:dbconvert(46eb0, SYBTEXT, fd2a4d15,
> 11,
> > > SYBDATETIME, 589260, 8)
> > > dblib.c:2286:dbconvert() calling tds_convert
> > > convert.c:1780:string_to_datetime: current_state
> = 0
> > > convert.c:1801:string_to_datetime: is_numeric
> > > convert.c:1780:string_to_datetime: current_state
> = 1
> > > convert.c:2500:store_monthname: 3 Apr
> > > convert.c:1780:string_to_datetime: current_state
> = 2
> > > dblib.c:2289:dbconvert() called tds_convert
> returned
> > 8
> > >
> > > -- we seem to have converted that to a datetime
> (which
> > is 8
> > > bytes)
> > >
> > > bcp.c:3220:parsed column 10, length 8 (not null)
> > > bcp.c:3286:new_record_size = 56 datalen = 8
> > > bcp.c:3310:old_record_size = 205 new size = 64
> > >
> > > -- we're now done with that column...
> > >
> > > So we move on to the field following the date
> > field...field
> > > 11 ?
> > >
> > > bcp.c:3404:_bcp_get_col_data(46eb0, 5970d8)
> > > bcp.c:3463:_bcp_get_col_data bytes_read: 0,
> > terminator>
> > > <
> > > bcp.c:3469:_bcp_get_col_data collen: 0,
> > >
> > > -- the field is empty (length 0, because the
> field has
> > a
> > > NULL terminator in the first position
> > >
> > > bcp.c:3478:_bcp_get_col_data Data is NULL
> > > bcp.c:3220:parsed column 11, length 0 (null)
> > >
> > > -- so we interpret that as a NULL input
> > >
> > > dblib.c:7785:dbperror(46eb0, 20073, 0)
> > > dblib.c:7838:20073: "Attempt to bulk copy a NULL
> value
> > into
> > > a Server column which does not accept null
> values"
> > >
> > > -- and because the corresponding column on the
> > database is
> > > defined as NOT NULL, bcp won't can't accept it.
> > >
> > > Are you falling foul of the database setting for
> > > ANSI_NULL_DEFAULT (see BOL)
> > > If you set up the table you're bcping into
> without
> > > specifying NULL or NOT NULL, it may be defaulting
> to
> > NOT
> > > NULL...
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > On Behalf Of Panos Stavroulis
> > > Sent: 22 June 2011 15:23
> > > To: FreeTDS Development Group
> > > Subject: Re: [freetds] bcp problems
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Bill,
> > >
> > > This fix works in principle. It still doesn't
> work for
> > my
> > > date field though. Let me explain. I used to have
> a
> > problem
> > > with another bcp row later in the code. This
> field had
> > a
> > > value of NULL and it was failing for the same
> reason.
> > I
> > > could reach that position I changed the
> #trans_bcp
> > table
> > > definition column trans_date to be from datetime
> to
> > char(30
> > > so it bypassed the date field column. It works
> now
> > after the
> > > fix.
> > >
> > > However, if I revert my #trans_bcp column
> definition
> > to
> > > datetime then I get a different error see
> below... The
> > value
> > > is still NULL when I am expecting it to be not
> null,
> > so it
> > > fails.
> > >
> > > Just a general question, when you pass dates
> what's
> > the
> > > length I need to define my C structure for all
> date
> > fields?
> > > Maybe this is where it goes wrong.
> > >
> > > If the error below tells you something then let
> me
> > know,
> > > otherwise, I will do some further tests in case
> there
> > is
> > > something else wrong with the code. In a way I
> have a
> > > workaround now.
> > >
> > > Thanks very much.
> > >
> > > Panos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > bcp.c:3469:_bcp_get_col_data collen: 11,
> > > dblib.c:2144:dbconvert(46eb0, SYBCHAR, fd2a4d08,
> 11,
> > > SYBCHAR, 4a6b8, 12)
> > > dblib.c:2177:dbconvert() srctype == desttype
> > > bcp.c:3220:parsed column 9, length 11 (not null)
> > > bcp.c:3286:new_record_size = 45 datalen = 11
> > > bcp.c:3310:old_record_size = 205 new size = 56
> > > bcp.c:3404:_bcp_get_col_data(46eb0, 596c60)
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 0 , value =>2<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 1 , value =>8<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 2 , value => <
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 3 , value =>A<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 4 , value =>p<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 5 , value =>r<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 6 , value => <
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 7 , value =>2<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 8 , value =>0<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 9 , value =>1<
> > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 10 , value =>1<
> > > bcp.c:3463:_bcp_get_col_data bytes_read: 11,
> > > terminator><
> > > bcp.c:3469:_bcp_get_col_data collen: 11,
> > > dblib.c:2144:dbconvert(46eb0, SYBTEXT, fd2a4d15,
> 11,
> > > SYBDATETIME, 589260, 8)
> > > dblib.c:2286:dbconvert() calling tds_convert
> > > convert.c:1780:string_to_datetime: current_state
> = 0
> > > convert.c:1801:string_to_datetime: is_numeric
> > > convert.c:1780:string_to_datetime: current_state
> = 1
> > > convert.c:2500:store_monthname: 3 Apr
> > > convert.c:1780:string_to_datetime: current_state
> = 2
> > > dblib.c:2289:dbconvert() called tds_convert
> returned
> > 8
> > > bcp.c:3220:parsed column 10, length 8 (not null)
> > > bcp.c:3286:new_record_size = 56 datalen = 8
> > > bcp.c:3310:old_record_size = 205 new size = 64
> > > bcp.c:3404:_bcp_get_col_data(46eb0, 5970d8)
> > > bcp.c:3463:_bcp_get_col_data bytes_read: 0,
> > terminator>
> > > <
> > > bcp.c:3469:_bcp_get_col_data collen: 0,
> > > bcp.c:3478:_bcp_get_col_data Data is NULL
> > > bcp.c:3220:parsed column 11, length 0 (null)
> > > dblib.c:7785:dbperror(46eb0, 20073, 0)
> > > dblib.c:7838:20073: "Attempt to bulk copy a NULL
> value
> > into
> > > a Server column which does not accept null
> values"
> > > 00000109 2011/06/22 09:27:52.431 TEMP 16139 SERI
> > >
> > >            DATABASE
> > > ERROR:: Attempt to bulk copy a NULL value into a
> > Server
> > > column which does not accept null values
> > > 00000110 2011/06/22 09:27:52.431 TEMP 16139 SERI
> > >
> > >            DATABASE
> > > ERROR:: Error 0
> > > dblib.c:7859:"Attempt to bulk copy a NULL value
> into
> > a
> > > Server column which does not accept null
> values",
> > client
> > > returns 2 (INT_CANCEL)
> > > bcp.c:3023:bcp_done(46eb0)
> > > net.c:779:Sending packet
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 22/6/11, Thompson, William <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Thompson, William <[email protected]>
> > > > Subject: Re: [freetds] bcp problems
> > > > To: "'FreeTDS Development Group'" <[email protected]>
> > > > Date: Wednesday, 22 June, 2011, 14:00
> > > > Hi Panos,
> > > >
> > > > I must be losing my marbles.
> > > > I actually solved the same issue in my
> > installation a
> > > month
> > > > or so ago, and reported the problem.
> > > >
> > > > the fix is in the file src/dblib/bcp.c
> > > > in function _bcp_get_col_data...
> > > >
> > > >     /* read the data, finally
> > */
> > > >
> > > >     if
> > (bindcol->bcp_term_len
> > > > 0) {
> > > >   /* terminated field */
> > > >         bytes_read
> > =
> > > > _bcp_get_term_var(dataptr, (BYTE
> > > > *)bindcol->bcp_terminator,
> > > bindcol->bcp_term_len);
> > > >
> > > > -       if (collen)
> > > > +       if (collen >
> > 0)
> > > >
> > >    collen =
> > > > (bytes_read < collen) ? bytes_read :
> collen;
> > > >         else
> > > >
> > >    collen =
> > > > bytes_read;
> > > >
> > > >         if (collen
> > ==
> > > 0)
> > > >
> > >    data_is_null =
> > > > 1;
> > > >     }
> > > >
> > > > Hope this works for you.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > On Behalf Of Panos Stavroulis
> > > > Sent: 22 June 2011 12:40
> > > > To: FreeTDS Development Group
> > > > Subject: Re: [freetds] bcp problems
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Bill,
> > > >
> > > > I made a mistake and was printing not the
> > correct
> > > > character. See below... The terminator is
> fine.
> > I
> > > can't
> > > > actually paste it in  the emai so replaced
> > it
> > > with
> > > > blank, but the terminator field is
> consistent all
> > the
> > > way to
> > > > the column where it fails.
> > > >
> > > > Any other ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > Panos
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 0 , value =>V<
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 1 , value =>D<
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 2 , value =>A<
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 3 , value =>C<
> > > > bcp.c:3463:_bcp_get_col_data bytes_read: 4,
> > > terminator>
> > > > <
> > > > bcp.c:3469:_bcp_get_col_data collen: -1,
> > > > dblib.c:2144:dbconvert(45c80, SYBCHAR,
> fd2a4fd9,
> > -1,
> > > > SYBCHAR, 589c40, 4)
> > > > dblib.c:2177:dbconvert() srctype ==
> desttype
> > > > bcp.c:3220:parsed column 5, length 4 (not
> null)
> > > > bcp.c:3286:new_record_size = 19 datalen = 4
> > > > bcp.c:3310:old_record_size = 205 new size =
> 23
> > > > bcp.c:3404:_bcp_get_col_data(45c80, 5861e0)
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 0 , value =>G<
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 1 , value =>B<
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 2 , value =>P<
> > > > bcp.c:3463:_bcp_get_col_data bytes_read: 3,
> > > terminator>
> > > > <
> > > > bcp.c:3469:_bcp_get_col_data collen: -1,
> > > > dblib.c:2144:dbconvert(45c80, SYBCHAR,
> fd2a4fde,
> > -1,
> > > > SYBCHAR, 589c50, 3)
> > > > dblib.c:2177:dbconvert() srctype ==
> desttype
> > > > bcp.c:3220:parsed column 6, length 3 (not
> null)
> > > > bcp.c:3286:new_record_size = 25 datalen = 3
> > > > bcp.c:3310:old_record_size = 205 new size =
> 28
> > > > bcp.c:3404:_bcp_get_col_data(45c80, 586658)
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 0 , value =>2<
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 1 , value =>1<
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 2 , value =>1<
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 3 , value =>0<
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 4 , value =>0<
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 5 , value =>0<
> > > > bcp.c:3463:_bcp_get_col_data bytes_read: 6,
> > > terminator>
> > > > <
> > > > bcp.c:3469:_bcp_get_col_data collen: -1,
> > > > dblib.c:2144:dbconvert(45c80, SYBCHAR,
> fd2a4fe2,
> > -1,
> > > > SYBCHAR, 4a870, 16)
> > > > dblib.c:2177:dbconvert() srctype ==
> desttype
> > > > bcp.c:3220:parsed column 7, length 6 (not
> null)
> > > > bcp.c:3286:new_record_size = 30 datalen = 6
> > > > bcp.c:3310:old_record_size = 205 new size =
> 36
> > > > bcp.c:3404:_bcp_get_col_data(45c80, 586ad0)
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 0 , value =>B<
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 1 , value =>O<
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 2 , value =>O<
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 3 , value =>K<
> > > > bcp.c:3521:bufpos = 4 , value =>1<
> > > > bcp.c:3463:_bcp_get_col_data bytes_read: 5,
> > > > terminator>--- On Wed, 22/6/11,
> Thompson,
> > William
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: Thompson, William <[email protected]>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [freetds] bcp problems
> > > > > To: "'FreeTDS Development Group'"
> <[email protected]>
> > > > > Date: Wednesday, 22 June, 2011, 11:25
> > > > > Hi Panos,
> > > > >
> > > > > remember me asking if you were using a
> > > terminator
> > > > other
> > > > > than "\0" ?
> > > > >
> > > > > > bcp.c:3463:_bcp_get_col_data
> > bytes_read: 0,
> > > > > terminator>à<
> > > > >
> > > > > Now we just have to figure out how
> that
> > > terminator got
> > > > in
> > > > > there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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