Re: [U2] Dump truck backup

dale kelley <[email protected]> Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:22:55 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.db.u2.general
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Charlie, you're right.  He's already retired Metro and can only work so 
many hours.  (He's almost as old as I.)

On 03/10/2014 06:01 PM, Charlie Noah wrote:
> Very possible if you're using a terminal emulator that will pass 
> through mouse codes and an input routine that can be taught to 
> interpret them. The biggest problem I had with that was that 
> old-school users wanted to Enter from field to field, and Windows 
> users wanted to Tab from field to field, and Enter to submit the page. 
> I just told them to get out the boxing gloves and whoever won would 
> get their way. :-)
>
> IMHO, the assistant director is very short-sighted and will move on to 
> something else when it all hits the fan.
>
> Good luck!
> Charlie Noah
>
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> On 03-10-2014 5:54 PM, dale kelley wrote:
>> While I know that mouseable screens provide no improvement in 
>> functionality I would try to keep it at least "as good" as it is.  
>> Old users could still use the keyboard but them "winders" people 
>> could click their way.  Is that possible?
>>
>> On 03/10/2014 05:09 PM, Allen Elwood RR wrote:
>>>
>>> imho, mousing up just leads to disability claims about mouse 
>>> shoulder...
>>>
>>> a tax preparation service who shall go unnamed has a hideous package 
>>> that *cannot change fields* unless you use the mouse, which means 
>>> every time you type you have to reach over and grab the damn thing 
>>> to go to the next field
>>>
>>> i cannot tell you how many times i had to rub my wife's shoulder 
>>> with bengay before she finally quit - took five years for the lump 
>>> in the middle of her shoulder blade to heal
>>>
>>> On 3/10/2014 2:11 PM, Dale Kelley wrote:
>>>> This is mostly for you folks who are contractors but I'd be happy 
>>>> to hear
>>>> from anyone.  I have a customer, Nashville Metropolitan Government, 
>>>> for whom
>>>> I have provided flea market reservation/registration and buiding event
>>>> rental software. (UniVerse.)  I am a 1 man shop.  I look both ways 
>>>> before I
>>>> cross the street and so far its worked out.  But the issue of 
>>>> continuation
>>>> of development and support has come up for a second time; along 
>>>> with it the
>>>> nature of my character based software and some reactions to 
>>>> UviVerse as a
>>>> product.  This is an email from the assistant director of the 
>>>> Nashville
>>>> fairgrounds:
>>>>
>>>> "Subject: ITS Help Selecting New Software
>>>> Importance: High
>>>> Our Flea Market and Corporate Sales components have been utilizing
>>>> proprietary software that is ancient, and without documentation for 
>>>> many
>>>> years.  It has not been supported by ITS, and there is only one 
>>>> known person
>>>> in the Tennessee area that can serviced this software. With the 
>>>> upgrade to
>>>> Windows 7, it will not operate.  Obviously, we need to purchase a 
>>>> package
>>>> that will provide the functionality we need and that can be 
>>>> supported by
>>>> ITS. I am requesting a meeting, with the appropriate ITS staff at the
>>>> earliest possible time; to identify our needs and possible software 
>>>> packages
>>>> that can be installed."
>>>>
>>>> He is incorrect in most of his conclusions, but this is his 
>>>> perception.  I
>>>> have left behind a number of great systems that are now defunct 
>>>> because
>>>> management viewed them as "ancient".  Does anyone else meet this 
>>>> attitude?
>>>> My customer defended the system with the following email.
>>>>
>>>> "Ken
>>>> Who said our software was ancient?  It is not, it aids in insuring the
>>>> revenue stream for both Flea Market and Facility Rental, you are 
>>>> correct
>>>> that the software is serviced by one individual since he wrote the 
>>>> program,
>>>> his name is Dale Kelley and he has other members on his team that 
>>>> know the
>>>> software in the event something happens to him.  As far as the 
>>>> upgrade to
>>>> Windows 7 who said that it will not operate?  This is certainly not 
>>>> the
>>>> case, the software can be updated to run with minimal effort.  You can
>>>> contact Dale Kelley if you like, I have copied him on this e-mail.
>>>> Thank you for your time
>>>> Deborah"
>>>>
>>>> Deborah's defense included a small lie about the "members of my 
>>>> team"; I'm
>>>> it.  This system is written entirely in BASIC; no procs, no 
>>>> scripts.  I
>>>> always have the source code on the system; it's theirs to use as 
>>>> they wish.
>>>> I would be happy to provide it for review.  My question: is there 
>>>> anyone who
>>>> would have any interest in taking over this and another government 
>>>> customer
>>>> if I should become defunct or inoperable?  I know there are some great
>>>> people in Tennessee, but these guys could be supported from anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> I would also appreciate any advice on products and time required to 
>>>> mouse up
>>>> the screens and present non-ancient images.  I intend to arrenge a 
>>>> meeting
>>>> with the Assistant Director to attempt to address his concerns and 
>>>> see if I
>>>> can sell some services.
>>>>
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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