Re: "success"

Jim,

There is SELDOM a good technical solution for a social problem, unless
there are clear limits on the social side which control negative behaviors
with some very strong adversity on failure. Not even life in jail is a
deterant, or even death, for some individuals, when there is a good
posibility of fame or riches for cheating the system.

Decision theory and Game Theory are well worth spending some time thinking
about BEFORE attempting to design a technical solution to a social problem.

I was quite serious in responding to your opening the door, assuming
suggesting practical ideas to solve the problem would be openly considered.

The best way to solve this problem is drastically change the rules of the
game to remove self interest in defeating the technology. And to have firm
limits (IE blacklisting) to remove violators from the game for good, when
a player's primary goal is disruption of the game, as a DoS attack on the
other players.

The current system doesn't protect the goals of the game you setup. First
it blocks participation of the most likely technology to solve the current
RSA challenge. Second, the solution is flawed, as a few hours in a debugger
will disassemble, and/or reverse compile your technical solution, making it
"open source" for a skilled hacker determined to mess with the game.

John


	On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 02:56:12PM -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
	> > Which is why this list is dead. The proprietary interests block open
	> > access.
	> 
	> Ideas for ways to do away with the crypto most welcome. :)

	Damn, accidentally deleted your email.

there is always the archive.

	In any case, I should have been more explicit: what we need are actual
	plans that remove the need for any proprietary code, and then people who
	will put the effort in to make them happen. Some of what you mentioned
	has been talked about (namely a means to positively identify what user
	is submitting a particular work unit), but that's still just the tip of
	the iceberg.
	-- 
	Jim C. Nasby, Database Architect            [email protected]
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