Re: Fully unrolled RC5 on FPGA
"John L. Bass" <jbass-/[email protected]> Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:25:14 -0700
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Gerald Richter <[email protected]> wrote: > Erg, i've always been a not fan of kludges like that. They work, and > very well for some things, but just ugh. Gimme a full length PCI card > with a bridge chip, whatever other support logic is needed and sockets > for like 8 chips and i'm happy. I dunno, how big are the spartan 4? > Could we fit more spartan 3s in the space? None of these devices which have a practical size are easily socketed. Most are ball grid arrays (BGA), or fine pitch quad flat packs (QFP). The price per performance doesn't favor a bunch of small fpga's, but may well favor a few mid to large sized fpga's. As for card chassis, server PC's are still the cheapest, and most usable chassis ... far better than some VME kludge. A typical mid end PII or PIII PC server motherboard has a bunch of slots, including a couple 64bit 3.3V PCI slots, can be had for small change. Some more interesting boat anchors, like older high end servers, typically have a large number of PCI slots (up to 12), including a large number of 64 bit slots. It might not be unreasonable to make a card so that it can passively occupy a 5V PCI slot (take power and mounting from it), but not interface to the 5V PCI. Or to put a 5V tollerant CPLD on a 5V PCI card to pick off ISA emulation I/O ports with a narrow (8/16) bit bus width, as an interface to the fpga array. Or, use some older XC4K fpga's as the bridge to the newer fast/cheap fpga's. 5V PCI capable XC4K parts frequent Ebay for chump change, as do the CPLDs. John _______________________________________________ Hardware mailing list Hardware-Ra3b/QYEcJ3d140v2zMXi0fjHoOT/h/[email protected] http://lists.distributed.net/mailman/listinfo/hardware