Re: FormLayout & Swixml Marriage

Brian P Michael <[email protected]>
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I agree with Kate on Jelly.

One of the reasons that I am looking at SwiXML is that Jelly is way to  
much like JSP.

I don't want "Bean" access from within the xml.  I happen to think that  
most JSP code
is ugly, hard to follow and lacks code re-use on a per-page basis.


On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 10:13  AM, kate rhodes wrote:

> I don't' want way beyond layout... I also don't want XUL. I just want  
> to define all my swing widgets in XML
>
> jelly swing  will let me do this but it goes too far. Too much  
> functional xml when I just want widgets. I like the MVC way of  
> programming.. the idea of functions in my layout irks me.
>
> as for plug-in architectures there's actually a generic plug-in  
> architecture project on sourceforge that a friend of mine's working > on.
>
> Should be able to drop into pretty much any system.  And I doubt wolf  
> really wants to code a whole new one (even if it does co-opt existing  
> concepts)... I know I don't.
>
> -Kate
>
> Gerald Bauer wrote:
>
>> Hello Kate,
>>
>>
>>> something else we need, or, *I* think we need,
>>> though is support of sub tags... for example
>>>
>>> <combobox ....>
>>>    <option... ></option>
>>>    <option... ></option>
>>> </combobox>
>>>
>>> I know wolf doesn't want to support the dynamic
>>> population of combo boxes in SWIXML as it starts to veer off into the
>>> world of functional xml instead of strict layout xml but as a 3rd  
>>> party
>>> it's something I'd really like to add. But, there isn't a good way to
>>> handle those "option" tags at the moment as there isn't a way to  
>>> just add
>>> a component to a combo box in the way SWIXML does things.
>>
>>  Kate, if you're looking for a XUL
>> motor/browser/runtime that goes way beyond layout why
>> not check out the Luxor XUL toolkit @
>> http://luxor-xul.sourceforge.net ?
>>
>>  Luxor already supports populating input
>> controls/widgets such as comboboxes using XML data
>> sources.
>>
>>  - Gerald
>>
>> PS: If you need some ideas about a plugin
>> "architecture" check out Luxor Plugin Central site
>> a.k.a. Petra online @ http://petra.sourceforge.net
>>
>> PPS: I hope you don't get me wrong. Swix is a
>> fantastic piece of software and I fully support Swix
>> but as Wolf outlined Swix and Luxor follow different
>> design principles. Luxor for example embraces
>> scripting, CSS styling and much more.
>>
>>
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Brian P Michael
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