Re: Before declaring Bochs is dead ...

Xinyang Ge <[email protected]> Sun, 10 Jul 2022 09:21:15 -0700
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So you have two suggestions here: (1) have the full name for the author
info, and (2) remove the backward pointer to the SVN repo.

For (1), it looks like the SVN commit history doesn't contain the full name
either: Bochs x86 PC emulator / Code / Commit [r14349] (sourceforge.net)
<https://sourceforge.net/p/bochs/code/14349/>.  To be consistent, shall we
just reuse whatever is in SVN history for the new git repo?

For (2), I can take a look and see if we can remove the backward pointer.

Anything else I missed?

Xinyang

On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 10:57 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is exactly not good one =E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> This is how it supposed to look like:
>
>
>
> =3D=3D Cut Here =3D=3D
>
> commit d320dadcc9c40282ad282fa6c64ccbfef048d952 (HEAD -> master,
> origin/master, origin/HEAD)
>
> Author: Volker Ruppert
>
> Date:   Thu Nov 4 17:44:57 2021 +0000
>
>
>
>     Updated / improved information about configure shortcut scripts.
>
> =3D=3D Cut Here =3D=3D
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Xinyang Ge <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, 9 July 2022 18:42
> *To:* Stanislav Shwartsman <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* bochs-developers <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Bochs-developers] Before declaring Bochs is dead ...
>
>
>
> Did you check https://github.com/countingpine/bochs-svn?  The latest git
> commit
> <https://github.com/countingpine/bochs-svn/commit/d320dadcc9c40282ad282fa=
6c64ccbfef048d952>
> (shown below) matches what I saw from the SVN repo.  They also seem to ge=
t
> the author info and commit message correct (with an additional pointer to
> the SVN commit).  Is there any issue you saw from the repo?  If not, we c=
an
> just clone and re-upload the repo to a more official account of Bochs on
> Github.
>
>
>
> commit d320dadcc9c40282ad282fa6c64ccbfef048d952 (HEAD -> master,
> origin/master, origin/HEAD)
>
> Author: vruppert <vruppert@6c8e4198-a580-4521-a02f-c9ae86df1db9>
>
> Date:   Thu Nov 4 17:44:57 2021 +0000
>
>
>
>     Updated / improved information about configure shortcut scripts.
>
>
>
>     git-svn-id: http://svn.code.sf.net/p/bochs/code/trunk@14349
> 6c8e4198-a580-4521-a02f-c9ae86df1db9
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 7:24 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I see dozens of Bochs forks to git in the net. Most of them outdate and
> dead.
>
> Unfortunately not even single one of them is forked properly, with
> converting authors and cleaning up stuff afterwards.
>
> Doing simple =E2=80=98git log=E2=80=99 on bochs folder reveals a lot of g=
arbage that
> should not be there.
>
>
>
> I tried to go through the process of migration from scratch but seems lik=
e
> smth is going wrong for me.
>
>
>
> It prints :
>
>
>
> Initialized empty Git repository in
> /cygdrive/e/BOCHS/BOCHS/SVN/bochs-git-conversion/bochs-git-tmp/.git/
>
> Using higher level of URL:
> https://svn.code.sf.net/p/bochs/code/trunk/bochs =3D>
> https://svn.code.sf.net/p/bochs/code
>
>
>
> And just stuck for very long time. At the end I see .git folder which is
> empty repo (nothing from SVN was imported).
>
>
>
> *From:* Xinyang Ge <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, 8 July 2022 22:18
> *To:* Stanislav Shwartsman <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* bochs-developers <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Bochs-developers] Before declaring Bochs is dead ...
>
>
>
> Totally.  Any open-source project would require the whole community effor=
t
> to make it live long and prosper, and I think moving Bochs to git/github
> would encourage more people to contribute (especially nowadays).  Let me
> know how I can help with the efforts.
>
>
>
> Xinyang
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 11:03 AM Stanislav Shwartsman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> >Bochs is one of the highest-fidelity PC emulators and is widely used in
> both academia and industry.  If there's a way we can keep it going, pleas=
e
> don't let it die.
>
>
>
> You are the ones who could keep it from doing.
>
> Bochs can't survive on just 2 contributors which also have families, work
> and other projects to care.
>
> We would try to do our best but it can't continue alone.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 7:05 PM Xinyang Ge <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Stanislav,
>
>
>
> There is a github repo which has its commit history in sync with the SVN
> repo: https://github.com/countingpine/bochs-svn.  Can we use it as a
> starting point for svn>>git transition or maybe even contact the owner of
> that github repo for help?
>
>
>
> Bochs is one of the highest-fidelity PC emulators and is widely used in
> both academia and industry.  If there's a way we can keep it going, pleas=
e
> don't let it die.
>
>
>
> Xinyang
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 8:48 AM Stanislav Shwartsman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Ho Folks.
>
> Seems like I left alone. Tried to write Volker and he didn't respond for
> 10 days :(
>
> Before declaring Bochs officially dead I would like to modernize it a bit
> by moving to newer tools and trying to invite new contributors. I
> personally like git as new Bochs version control system and especially li=
ke
> github and its code review interface.
>
> But I am not a master in doing svn>>git transitions.
>
> In the other side I saw some of you already did it before and have
> necessary experience.
>
> Can someone volunteer to have a Zoom/Teams session for the svn>>git
> transition?
> I hope it won't take forever and as result we should get git repository
> for Bochs on Sourceforge (seems like they have it) or may be preferable,
> already in github.
>
> Anyone ?
>
> Thanks,
> Stanislav
>
> _______________________________________________
> bochs-developers mailing list
> [email protected]
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bochs-developers
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">So you have two suggesti=
ons here: (1) have the full name for the author info, and (2) remove the ba=
ckward pointer to the SVN repo.<div><br></div><div>For (1), it looks like t=
he SVN commit history doesn&#39;t contain the full name either:=C2=A0<a hre=
f=3D"https://sourceforge.net/p/bochs/code/14349/">Bochs x86 PC emulator / C=
ode / Commit [r14349] (sourceforge.net)</a>.=C2=A0 To be consistent, shall =
we just reuse whatever is in SVN history for the new git repo?</div><div><b=
r></div><div>For (2), I can take a look and see if we can remove the backwa=
rd pointer.</div><div><br></div><div>Anything else I missed?</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Xinyang</div></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 10:57 AM &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"en-IL" st=
yle=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-33484871117417439=
66WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">This is exactly=
 not good one =E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US">This is how it supposed to look like:<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=3D=3D Cut Here =3D=3D<u></=
u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">commit d320dadcc9c40282ad282fa6c=
64ccbfef048d952 (HEAD -&gt; master, origin/master, origin/HEAD)<u></u><u></=
u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Author: Volker Ruppert<u></u><u></u></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">Date:=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thu Nov 4 17:44:57 2021 +0000<u></u><u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Updated / improved information about configure shortcut scr=
ipts.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=3D=3D C=
ut Here =3D=3D<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;=
border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Xinyang Ge &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 9 July 2022 18:=
42<br><b>To:</b> Stanislav Shwartsman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stlintel@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> bochs-devel=
opers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</=
b> Re: [Bochs-developers] Before declaring Bochs is dead ...<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Did you check=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/=
countingpine/bochs-svn" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/countingpine/b=
ochs-svn</a>?=C2=A0 The latest git <a href=3D"https://github.com/countingpi=
ne/bochs-svn/commit/d320dadcc9c40282ad282fa6c64ccbfef048d952" target=3D"_bl=
ank">commit</a> (shown below) matches what I saw from the SVN repo.=C2=A0 T=
hey also seem to get the author info and commit message correct (with an ad=
ditional pointer to the SVN commit).=C2=A0 Is there any issue you saw from =
the repo?=C2=A0 If not, we can just=C2=A0clone and re-upload the repo to a =
more official account of Bochs on Github.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
commit d320dadcc9c40282ad282fa6c64ccbfef048d952 (HEAD -&gt; master, origin/=
master, origin/HEAD)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Aut=
hor: vruppert &lt;vruppert@6c8e4198-a580-4521-a02f-c9ae86df1db9&gt;<u></u><=
u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Date:=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thu Nov 4 17:=
44:57 2021 +0000<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Updated / =
improved information about configure shortcut scripts.<u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 git-svn-id: <a href=3D"http://svn.code.sf.net/=
p/bochs/code/trunk@14349" target=3D"_blank">http://svn.code.sf.net/p/bochs/=
code/trunk@14349</a> 6c8e4198-a580-4521-a02f-c9ae86df1db9<u></u><u></u></p>=
</div></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 7:24 AM &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;borde=
r-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I see dozens of Bochs forks to git in t=
he net. Most of them outdate and dead. </span><span lang=3D"en-IL"><u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Unfortunately =
not even single one of them is forked properly, with converting authors and=
 cleaning up stuff afterwards.</span><span lang=3D"en-IL"><u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Doing simple =E2=80=98g=
it log=E2=80=99 on bochs folder reveals a lot of garbage that should not be=
 there.</span><span lang=3D"en-IL"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"en-IL"><u></u><u></=
u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I tried to go thro=
ugh the process of migration from scratch but seems like smth is going wron=
g for me.</span><span lang=3D"en-IL"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"en-IL"><u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">It prints :</spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-IL"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"en-IL"><u></u><u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL" style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Lucida Console&quot;">Initialized empty Git repository in /cygdr=
ive/e/BOCHS/BOCHS/SVN/bochs-git-conversion/bochs-git-tmp/.git/</span><span =
lang=3D"en-IL"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"en-IL" style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Console&quot;">U=
sing higher level of URL: <a href=3D"https://svn.code.sf.net/p/bochs/code/t=
runk/bochs" target=3D"_blank">https://svn.code.sf.net/p/bochs/code/trunk/bo=
chs</a> =3D&gt; <a href=3D"https://svn.code.sf.net/p/bochs/code" target=3D"=
_blank">https://svn.code.sf.net/p/bochs/code</a></span><span lang=3D"en-IL"=
><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">And=
 just stuck for very long time. At the end I see .git folder which is empty=
 repo (nothing from SVN was imported).</span><span lang=3D"en-IL"><u></u><u=
></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">=C2=A0<u></u><u=
></u></span></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-l=
eft:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US=
"> Xinyang Ge &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">ae=
[email protected]</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 8 July 2022 22:18<br><b>To=
:</b> Stanislav Shwartsman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> bochs-developers &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email protected]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Boch=
s-developers] Before declaring Bochs is dead ...</span><span lang=3D"en-IL"=
><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL"=
>=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"e=
n-IL">Totally.=C2=A0 Any open-source project would require the whole commun=
ity effort to make it live long and prosper, and I think moving Bochs to gi=
t/github would encourage more people to contribute (especially nowadays).=
=C2=A0 Let me know how I can help with the efforts.<u></u><u></u></span></p=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">Xinyang<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"en-IL">On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 11:03 AM Stanislav Shwartsman &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;=
border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span lang=3D"en-IL">Hi,<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">&gt;Bochs is one of the highest-fidel=
ity PC emulators and is widely used in both academia and industry.=C2=A0 If=
 there&#39;s a way we can keep it going, please don&#39;t let it die.<u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"en-IL">You are the ones who could keep it from doing.<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">Bochs can&#39=
;t survive on just 2 contributors which also have families, work and other =
projects to care.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span lang=3D"en-IL">We would try to do our best but it can&#39;t continue=
 alone.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lan=
g=3D"en-IL">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span lang=3D"en-IL">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 7:05 PM Xinyang =
Ge &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">aegiryy@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"bord=
er-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(=
204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">Hi Stanislav,<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">There is a=
 github repo which has its commit history in sync with the SVN repo:=C2=A0<=
a href=3D"https://github.com/countingpine/bochs-svn" target=3D"_blank">http=
s://github.com/countingpine/bochs-svn</a>.=C2=A0 Can we use it as a startin=
g point for svn&gt;&gt;git transition or maybe even contact the owner of th=
at github repo for help?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">Bochs is one of the highest-fidelit=
y PC emulators and is widely used in both academia and industry.=C2=A0 If t=
here&#39;s a way we can keep it going, please don&#39;t let it die.<u></u><=
u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D=
"en-IL">Xinyang<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"en-IL">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><=
/div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">On Fri, Jul 8, 2=
022 at 8:48 AM Stanislav Shwartsman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
m" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bot=
tom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;mar=
gin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"en-IL">Ho =
Folks.<br><br>Seems like I left alone. Tried to write Volker and he didn&#3=
9;t respond for 10 days :(<br><br>Before declaring Bochs officially dead I =
would like to modernize it a bit by moving to newer tools and trying to inv=
ite new contributors. I personally like git as new Bochs version control sy=
stem and especially like github and its code review interface.<br><br>But I=
 am not a master in doing svn&gt;&gt;git transitions. <br><br>In the other =
side I saw some of you already did it before and have necessary experience.=
<br><br>Can someone volunteer to have a Zoom/Teams session for the svn&gt;&=
gt;git transition?<br>I hope it won&#39;t take forever and as result we sho=
uld get git repository for Bochs on Sourceforge (seems like they have it) o=
r may be preferable, already in github.<br><br>Anyone ?<br><br>Thanks,<br>S=
tanislav<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D=
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