Re: Has IBM changed its licenses?

"halfmeg <[email protected]>" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.emulators.hercules390.advocacy
Message-ID <[email protected]>
> Peter D. Ward wrote:
><snip>
> In doing as you suggest, it just says ""2" means that you may not
> copy and use this Program on another computer without paying
> additional license fees."
> 
> So I see nothing which would preclude its original (as opposed to
> 2nd machine) use on Thinkpads under the terms of the PWD.

Gee Whiz, Peter, do you always think in terms of PWD offerings.  Does 
you product stop functioning without a PWD license?  What about non 
PWD license holders?
 
> > Could Phil P. have gotten it wrong, it doesn't seem there is a
> > ban, just that IBM wants an additional license fee.  At least
> > that's what I get out of reading the Websphere doc.
> 
> I don't read that into the websphere license at all.   Can you
> please lay out the exact thread of your argument?   Thanks.

Phil Payne wrote:

"mainframe products have explicit bans on downloading them to PCs. 
This is SMP/E - there are lots of others:"

> > Phil - the orginal link states there might be additional terms PWD
> > ADCD users must read and abide by - isn't development suppose to
> > be a 'for the cause' type of thing instead of a 'let's make money
> > off of the enhancer's' type of thing?
> 
> Additional license terms does not necessarily mean money terms.
> Do you have an example where IBM is asking for additional fees from
> an AD-CD user?

Do you mean additional fees over and above the purchase of hardware 
from one of their business partners?

If additional license terms don't mean money terms, then the "free 
license" should be available to all who "qualify" based on their 
project info and could run on whatever system they wish, not just a 
FLEX PWD offering.  If we have a z/900 on which we wish to carve out 
an LPAR and a few MIPS to develop with, the PWD license prohibits 
that usage.

"You may not share or use the Program on another system. This 
Program, which is the IBM software provided on the applicable ADCD 
sets, is authorized for use only on the single designated development 
system to which it is licensed, being an IBM authorized system 
obtained through the PartnerWorld for Developer (PWD) Program or the 
FLEX-ES emulator obtained through a PWD qualified IBM Business 
Partner."

Phil - thinking the whole mess stinks 


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