RE: Re: Downloading Z/OS

I also thank you for your response. Prior postings from me did not include
the name of my employer because my writing has absolutely nothing to do with
work. I guess there is always some idiot that had to drag work back into it.

My question really isn't about advocacy either in that I have stated that I
have not in the past had any need to know a mainframe for work purposes nor
will in the future. I think for those who derive income from the mainframe
should pay monies to IBM to use their software.

My case is also different. I want to write a book. For those that know me or
have read any of my prior books will know that I donate any royalties
received to charitable causes. In other words, I plan on earning zero for
using Z/OS and therefore don't want to pay for it and need a person that can
help me with this goal.

You are getting me closer to my answer. How do I find out exactly who to
email in Partnerworld that can get me the CD with Z/OS on it without paying
for it.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Dave Gibney [mailto:[email protected]]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:30 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Cc: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [turnkey-mvs] Re: Downloading Z/OS


     I understand that Gabe Goldberg, I think, did succeed in getting OS390
  2.5? from IBM for this purpose some years ago.
     You might also be able to acquire  Partner World for Development copy
  and a Flex-es thinkpad.
     It really does, unfortunately, still remain the case that running on
  Hercules is a license violation in all but the most limited and specific
  cases.


  > James McGovern wrote:
  >
  > Ordering from ShopZSeries doesn't tell me how to acquire it for author
  > purposes. I am looking for the direct channel for who can send me a copy
  > IBM employee or not. This request has absolutely zero to do with work,
  > hence my point. Pursuing work related channels is inappropriate. I do
  > hope that lurkers from IBM actually figure out the RIGHT channel to
serve
  > my request.
  >
  >      -----Original Message-----
  >      From: Dave Gibney [mailto:[email protected]]
  >      Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:05 PM
  >      To: [email protected]
  >      Subject: Re: [turnkey-mvs] Re: Downloading Z/OS
  >
  >         In the case of z/OS, it appears that often does mean close
  >      to %100 in
  >      the eyes of the owner, IBM.
  >         If you could get a license, it's a simple matter of ordering
  >      a serverpac
  >      from Shopzseries.
  >
  >         Please send me a working copy of Windows XP, Oracle 9i and
  >      10g. I'd like
  >      to play with Peoplesoft also, so please send anything you have.
  >
  >         Just joking by the way. I've heard that there are plenty of
  >      warez sites,
  >      but I don't indulge.
  >
  >         If you really do work for The Hartford, you should check
  >      with the legal
  >      department. I don't know if they are IBM customers but your
  >      constant
  >      requests must have come to the notice of the IBM lurkers by
  >      now.
  >
  >        And please take it to the advocacy list.
  >
  >      > James McGovern wrote:
  >      >
  >      > Often does not equal 100%. Kinda like our president making
  >      everything
  >      > illegal because it often is used for immoral things even
  >      though it has
  >      > the potential for being moral...
  >      >
  >      >      -----Original Message-----
  >      >      From: Ted Rolle [mailto:[email protected]]
  >      >      Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:54 AM
  >      >      To: [email protected]
  >      >      Subject: [turnkey-mvs] Re: Downloading Z/OS
  >      >
  >      >      "Share" often = steal
  >      >      Decreasing morality.
  >      >
  >      >      --- In [email protected], "James McGovern"
  >      >      <james@a...> wrote:
  >      >      > MessageWould love to understand the dinosaur mindset
  >      of
  >      >      IBMers. How come
  >      >      > those who grew up in the 80s and 90s are willing to
  >      share
  >      >      software
  >      >      but those
  >      >      > who have been in the field for 30 years and work on
  >      >      mainframes are so
  >      >      > "formal" in how they acquire software.
  >      >
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