RE: What Are the Chances That CICS/VS will Be Available for DOS/VS Under Hercules???

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Dave Wade wrote:
> dosvsoperator wrote:
>
> > I can understand where IBM is coming from. They're scared
> > that someone will try to run production IT of a "for profit"
> > concern on a Hercules mainframe in violation of a license
> > agreement! It's kind of a backhanded compliment to the emulator!
> 
> I think the paranoid runs deeper than that. In the past the
> maintenance money paid for Maintenance and there was no need to
> force upgrades on folks. These days, like the rest of the
> "computer" industry, the whole Mainframe Marketing Bandwagon
> relies on selling frequent upgrades to both Hardware and Software.
[...]
> [...] you are caught in a never ending spiral or hardware and
> software upgrades. [...]

I think Dave has hit the nail on the head: the elimination of the
"after-market" market (or more properly, the complete elimination of
"hand-me-downs").

Thank about it. One company outgrows its capacity and must upgrade to a new
more powerful model. Their existing hardware isn't powerful enough -- for
them. But who's to say it's not plenty powerful enough for some other much
smaller company who has also outgrown their existing capacity? Why can't
company A's system which IT has outgrown be "handed down" to the much
smaller company B?

Because the software (specifically the operating system) required to RUN
that system is no longer being licensed! You can only get it from IBM and
IBM is no longer offering it. PURPOSELY.

That younger brother of yours (or next door neighbor) who has outgrown his
clothes has to go out and buy NEW clothes because the old clothes his older,
bigger brother has outgrown is no longer available. The manufacturer has
taken them back and is no longer offering them. In fact it wouldn't surprise
me if they've destroyed them.

And you of course can't use the newer operating systems on the older,
smaller, less powerful hardware either because they're purposely designed to
work only on the newer hardware that has all the specialized hardware and
instructions that they require to run.

End result? No more hand-me-downs. You MUST go out and buy new.

If IBM continued to license (offer) older versions of its operating systems
and software then they could be used by company B to run their enterprise on
company A's old used hardware, and company B would thus have no incentive to
purchase "new" hardware from IBM. The after-market market would grow and
flourish! Older hardware would INCREASE in value as there would be more of a
demand for it, and the sales volume of new hardware (and software!) would
suffer as a result.

In conclusion, to continue hoping that "maybe SOME day IBM will release
[this/that old operating system/software]" is a complete waste of time in my
personal opinion. It's just NOT going to happen. :(

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