RE: Re: Wait State 00050064

"'Dave Wade' [email protected] [H390-MVS]" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.emulators.hercules390.mvs
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Sent: 23 September 2019 19:42
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Re: Wait State 00050064
> 
> On Sat, 2019-09-21 at 08:39 -0700, ''Fish' (David B. Trout)'
> [email protected] [H390-MVS] wrote:
> > Dave Wade wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> > > was the LPAR number hidden from the OS....
> > > .... do S/370 OS's know about LPARs and how should Hercules behave
> > > when one is defined.
> > >
> > > Perhaps Hercules is behaving badly...
> >
> > I would tend to agree.
> >
> > I personally questioned the behavior (by Mark Gaubtaz (dasdman) back
> > in Sept. 2013) which is what lead to my eventual introduction of the
> > "Limited automatic LPARNUM updating when setting certain architecture
> > modes" change in Hyperion 4.1 (https://sdl-hercules-390.github.io/htm
> > l/hercrnot.html#4.1), but he insisted such handling was correct, and I
> > felt he was in a better position to know than me (having worked at
> > Amdahl for many years and having access to documents unavailable to
> > the general public).
> >
> > <shrug>
> >
> 
> The issue is not Hercules.  It is performing correctly.  The issue here is the
> operating system and what it supports, in this case, MVS 3.8J.
> 
> The mismatch is between the "hardware" options selected for Hercules vs. the
> software option actually being run on that "hardware."
> 

Harold,

I am not so sure. It seems different S/390 systems behave in different ways when (370) LPARS are configured..
... either that or there is an error in the ES/9000 functional characteristics. 


> Typically the Hercules configuration is about the emulated hardware.
>  It assumes the end user knows what he or she is doing when it comes to the
> software.  Without factoring in the OS planned for the given system, it is
> difficult for the Hercules configuration to recognize inconsistencies.  Note, I
> said difficult, but maybe not impossible.
> 

From what I recall it has always tried to separate CPU model and architecture. i.e. changing the CPU model does not affect the operation of Hercules.
Perhaps we need to change that.

> I certainly encourage the GUI to factor that into what it generates.
> 
> Harold Grovesteen
> 

Dave

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> Posted by: Harold Grovesteen <[email protected]>
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