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"That only targets the ASCII z/Linux, not the
EBCDIC z/OS USS."
Incorrect.
"The s390x produces ELF code, and ASCII too,
which I don't think will run on USS".
The output assembler can be uploaded to z/os and assembled and bound.
Joe
On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:03 PM kerravon86-/[email protected] [H390-MVS] <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <joemonk64@...> wrote :
>
> > GCC (latest version) already has a z/os target (s390x) ...
>
> That only targets the ASCII z/Linux, not the
> EBCDIC z/OS USS.
>
> > What Paul has is an S/370 target,
>
> The target is S/390 as well as S/370, which
> means I can produce and run 31-bit programs
> under z/OS too.
>
> > an architecture that no longer exists (it is only
> > available on Hercules). He has added limited
> > 31-bit support in what he calls a "380" architecture.
>
> S/380 is just one 31-bit platform that is
> supported. You are free to do all your
> work on z/OS instead.
>
> > Whatever you want to port, you should be able
> > to using the s390x target on your PC, then using
> > FTP to upload to the target z/series and run the
> > binder to make it a load module.
>
> The s390x produces ELF code, and ASCII too,
> which I don't think will run on USS.
>
> i370 is the only target that exercises the
> EBCDIC capabilities in GCC, which was formally
> added in the GCC 3.4 series.
>
> BFN. Paul.
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<p>---In <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email protected]</a>, <joemonk64@...> wrote :<br>
<br>
> GCC (latest version) already has a z/os target (s390x) ...<br>
<br>
That only targets the ASCII z/Linux, not the<br>
EBCDIC z/OS USS.<br>
<br>
> What Paul has is an S/370 target,<br>
<br>
The target is S/390 as well as S/370, which<br>
means I can produce and run 31-bit programs<br>
under z/OS too.<br>
<br>
> an architecture that no longer exists (it is only<br>
> available on Hercules). He has added limited<br>
> 31-bit support in what he calls a "380" architecture.<br>
<br>
S/380 is just one 31-bit platform that is<br>
supported. You are free to do all your<br>
work on z/OS instead.<br>
<br>
> Whatever you want to port, you should be able<br>
> to using the s390x target on your PC, then using<br>
> FTP to upload to the target z/series and run the<br>
> binder to make it a load module.<br>
<br>
The s390x produces ELF code, and ASCII too,<br>
which I don't think will run on USS.<br>
<br>
i370 is the only target that exercises the<br>
EBCDIC capabilities in GCC, which was formally<br>
added in the GCC 3.4 series.<br>
<br>
BFN. Paul.<br>
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