| Newsgroups |
gmane.comp.emulators.hercules390.mvs |
| Message-ID |
<[email protected]> |
--Apple-Mail=_C25CB3BF-E19A-48A5-AFEB-634797998B71
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=utf-8
Thank you guys,
I=E2=80=99ll signed up on groups.io <http://groups.io/> to the MVS and Kick=
s groups a couple of seconds ago. Never really liked the yahoo brand but sa=
d to see it fading away. And I=E2=80=99ll go dig deeper into Jay Moseley=E2=
=80=99s site. And yes=E2=80=A6connecting SMF with Splunk is=E2=80=A6very sp=
ecial I daresay. :-)=20
I used to be fairly good at doing stuff in perl decades ago, but got recent=
ly dragged a bit into python, probably due to tinkering with the raspberrie=
s.=20
Kind regards
Michael
> Am 13.04.2020 um 22:11 schrieb Doug Wegscheid [email protected] [H=
390-MVS] <[email protected]>:
>=20
>=20
> You probably want to be posting at groups.io <http://groups.io/>; people =
are trying to get away from the yahoo groups.
>=20
> [email protected] | Topics <https://groups.io/g/H390-MVS/topics>
>=20
> -----
>=20
> the statistics end up getting saved in SMF files (SYS1.MANX and SYS1.MANY=
on my MVS 3.8J). AFAIK, TK3 (and TK4-?) are set up to accumulate the infor=
mation into a GDG, so you have some history, see procs DUMPSMF and CLEARSMF=
). Jay Moseley details a good way to automate that whole thing, not sure if=
it's the same or different as the TK3 method.
>=20
> The CBT tapes have some prior art for parsing and reporting on the conten=
ts of the SMF datasets, a lot of them seemed to rely on SAS, I've seen one =
(I haven't tried it yet) on the SPLA that used FORTRAN. Jay has a page on a=
ll this, and has some specific recommendations: http://www.jaymoseley.com/h=
ercules/iefu29_exit/iefu29.htm <http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefu29_e=
xit/iefu29.htm>. I hadn't noticed Jay's references to specific programs in =
the CBT tapes, and will take a look at them tonight.
>=20
> I did a little work on decoding the files in PL/I(F) to generate name=3Dv=
alue output that I could run into Splunk.
>=20
> Unloading the files to the host PC and processing with a Perl or Python s=
cript is pretty doable, but I think that's considered cheating.
>=20
> --
>=20
> Also, more flowerboxes: http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefactrt/iefac=
trt.htm <http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefactrt/iefactrt.htm>
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Monday, April 13, 2020, 3:26:53 PM EDT, Joe Monk [email protected] <=
mailto:[email protected]> [H390-MVS] <[email protected] <mailto:h3=
[email protected]>> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20=20
>=20
> What you want is an IEFACTRT exit (aka a 'flower box") ... a good one can=
be found here:
>=20
> http://planetmvs.com/flowerbox/index.html <http://planetmvs.com/flowerbox=
/index.html>
>=20
> Joe
>=20
>=20
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:56 PM MG [email protected] <mailto:mac=
[email protected]> [H390-MVS] <[email protected] <mailto:H390-=
[email protected]>> wrote:
>=20=20
> Good evening, dear group!
>=20
> Back then in the olden days when I was young, our data center enforced th=
e use of accounting numbers in JOB statements to account resources used. As=
account numbers also work fine in TK-4, in a next step, I=E2=80=99d love t=
o evaluate job runs and total resources used by account number. So far, I=
=E2=80=99ve discovered SMF would be the right source of information. Is the=
re a pointer to the record format of the SMF recordings used by MVS 3.8j? W=
ould a Cobol program be appropriate? It=E2=80=99s probably a bit daring for=
somebody who still considers himself a newbie on TK4-/MVS 3.8j trying this=
.. I was searching the net and the usual resources but to no avail, except f=
or some info provided by IBM, but that=E2=80=99s addressing z/OS I suppose.
>=20
> Kind regards
> Michael
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
--Apple-Mail=_C25CB3BF-E19A-48A5-AFEB-634797998B71
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm=
l4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
</head>
=20
<body style=3D"background-color: #fff;">
<span style=3D"display:none"> </span>
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~-->
<div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;">
<div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;">
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~-->
<div id=3D"ygrp-text" >
=20=20=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20
<p>Thank you guys,<div class>I=E2=80=99ll signed up on <a href=3D"htt=
p://groups.io" class>groups.io</a> to the MVS and Kicks groups a coupl=
e of seconds ago. Never really liked the yahoo brand but sad to see it fadi=
ng away. And I=E2=80=99ll go dig deeper into Jay Moseley=E2=80=99s site. An=
d yes=E2=80=A6connecting SMF with Splunk is=E2=80=A6very special I daresay.=
:-) </div><div class>I used to be fairly good at doing stuff in perl =
decades ago, but got recently dragged a bit into python, probably due to ti=
nkering with the raspberries. </div><div class><br class></div><div cl=
ass>Kind regards</div><div class>Michael<br class><div><br class><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite" class><div class>Am 13.04.2020 um 22:11 schrieb Doug Wegsch=
eid <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class>dwegscheid@sbcglobal.=
net</a> [H390-MVS] <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class>H3=
[email protected]</a>>:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline=
"><div class><div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"font-size: 13px;font-family: A=
rial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;font-style: normal;font-weight: normal;l=
etter-spacing: normal;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: no=
ne;white-space: normal;word-spacing: 0px;" class><div id=3D"ygrp-msg" class=
><div id=3D"ygrp-text" style=3D"font-family: Georgia;" class><div style=3D"=
margin: 0px 0px 1em;" class><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><d=
iv class=3D"ydpa00babd3yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family: "Helvet=
ica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 16px;"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" data=3D"false" class><div class><div dir=3D"ltr" data=3D"false" class>=
You probably want to be posting at<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nb=
sp;</span><a href=3D"http://groups.io/" class>groups.io</a>; people are try=
ing to get away from the yahoo groups.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=3D"false"=
class><br class></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=3D"false" class><a href=3D"htt=
ps://groups.io/g/H390-MVS/topics" class=3D"ydp95feded3enhancr_card_76327281=
73" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email protected] | Topics</a></div=
><div class><br class></div><div class>-----</div><div class><br class></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" data=3D"false" class><div dir=3D"ltr" data=3D"false" cla=
ss>the statistics end up getting saved in SMF files (SYS1.MANX and SYS1.MAN=
Y on my MVS 3.8J). AFAIK, TK3 (and TK4-?) are set up to accumulate the info=
rmation into a GDG, so you have some history, see procs DUMPSMF and CLEARSM=
F). Jay Moseley details a good way to automate that whole thing, not sure i=
f it's the same or different as the TK3 method.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=
=3D"false" class><br class></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=3D"false" class>The =
CBT tapes have some prior art for parsing and reporting on the contents of =
the SMF datasets, a lot of them seemed to rely on SAS, I've seen one (I hav=
en't tried it yet) on the SPLA that used FORTRAN. Jay has a page on all thi=
s, and has some specific recommendations:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-spa=
ce"> </span><a href=3D"http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefu29_exit/=
iefu29.htm" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" class>http://www.jaymoseley.=
com/hercules/iefu29_exit/iefu29.htm</a>. I hadn't noticed Jay's references =
to specific programs in the CBT tapes, and will take a look at them tonight=
..<br class></div><div class><br class></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=3D"=
false" class><div dir=3D"ltr" data=3D"false" class><span class>I did a litt=
le work on decoding the files in PL/I(F) to generate name=3Dvalue output th=
at I could run into Splunk.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=3D"false" cla=
ss><span class></span><br class></div><div class>Unloading the files to the=
host PC and processing with a Perl or Python script is pretty doable, but =
I think that's considered cheating.<br class></div></div><div class><br cla=
ss></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=3D"false" class>--</div><div dir=3D"ltr" dat=
a=3D"false" class><br class></div><div class>Also, more flowerboxes:<span c=
lass=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"http://www.jaymosele=
y.com/hercules/iefactrt/iefactrt.htm" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" cl=
ass>http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefactrt/iefactrt.htm</a></div></div=
></div><div class><br class></div></div><div class=3D"ydpa00babd3yahoo-styl=
e-wrap" style=3D"font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial,=
sans-serif;font-size: 16px;"><div class><br class></div><br class></div><d=
iv id=3D"yahoo_quoted_7710860302" class=3D"yahoo_quoted"><div style=3D"font=
-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size=
: 13px;color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class><div class>On Monday, April 13, 2020,=
3:26:53 PM EDT, Joe Monk<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span=
><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class>[email protected]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[H390-MVS] <<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email protected]" class>[email protected]</a>> wrote:<=
/div><div class><br class></div><div class><br class></div><div class><div =
id=3D"yiv2096529633" class><div class><span class> </span><div id=3D"y=
iv2096529633ygrp-mlmsg" class><div id=3D"yiv2096529633ygrp-msg" class><div =
id=3D"yiv2096529633ygrp-text" class><div style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em;" cla=
ss><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class><div=
dir=3D"ltr" class>What you want is an IEFACTRT exit (aka a 'flower box") .=
... a good one can be found here:<div class><br clear=3D"none" class></div><=
div class><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http=
://planetmvs.com/flowerbox/index.html" class>http://planetmvs.com/flowerbox=
/index.html</a><br clear=3D"none" class></div><div class><br clear=3D"none"=
class></div><div class>Joe</div><div class><br clear=3D"none" class></div>=
</div></div><br clear=3D"none" class><div class=3D"yiv2096529633yqt90657474=
39" id=3D"yiv2096529633yqt17234"><div class=3D"yiv2096529633gmail_quote"><d=
iv class=3D"yiv2096529633gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:=
56 PM MG<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class>macbaer@autoreleas=
epool.de</a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[H390-MVS] &=
lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:H390-MVS@yahoogroup=
s.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class>H39=
[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none" class></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"yiv2096529633gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left-width: 1px;border-left-style: solid;border-left-color: rgb(204, =
204, 204);"><u class></u><div style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255)=
;" class><span class> </span><div id=3D"yiv2096529633gmail-m_-50666345=
61438728083ygrp-mlmsg" class><div id=3D"yiv2096529633gmail-m_-5066634561438=
728083ygrp-msg" class><div id=3D"yiv2096529633gmail-m_-5066634561438728083y=
grp-text" class><p style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em;" class>Good evening, dear =
group!<br clear=3D"none" class><br clear=3D"none" class>Back then in the ol=
den days when I was young, our data center enforced the use of accounting n=
umbers in JOB statements to account resources used. As account numbers also=
work fine in TK-4, in a next step, I=E2=80=99d love to evaluate job runs a=
nd total resources used by account number. So far, I=E2=80=99ve discovered =
SMF would be the right source of information. Is there a pointer to the rec=
ord format of the SMF recordings used by MVS 3.8j? Would a Cobol program be=
appropriate? It=E2=80=99s probably a bit daring for somebody who still con=
siders himself a newbie on TK4-/MVS 3.8j trying this. I was searching the n=
et and the usual resources but to no avail, except for some info provided b=
y IBM, but that=E2=80=99s addressing z/OS I suppose.<br clear=3D"none" clas=
s><br clear=3D"none" class>Kind regards<br clear=3D"none" class>Michael<br =
clear=3D"none" class><br clear=3D"none" class></p></div><div style=3D"color=
: rgb(255, 255, 255);min-height: 0px;" class></div></div></div></div></bloc=
kquote></div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv2096529633yqt9065747439" id=3D"yi=
v2096529633yqt77979"><div style=3D"color: rgb(255, 255, 255);min-height: 0p=
x;" class></div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv2096529633yqt9065747439" id=3D=
"yiv2096529633yqt82313"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div styl=
e=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em;" class><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></d=
iv></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(255, 255, 255);height: 0px;" class></div>=
</div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class></div></p>
</div>
=20=20=20=20=20
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~-->
<div style=3D"color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div>
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
=20=20
=20
=20=20=20=20
<div style=3D"clear:both"> </div>
<div id=3D"fromDMARC" style=3D"margin-top: 10px;">
<hr style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background=
-color:#E3E3E3;">
Posted by: MG <[email protected]> <hr style=
=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;">
</div>
<div style=3D"clear:both"> </div>
<table cellspacing=3D4px style=3D"margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px=
; color: #2D50FD;">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bo=
ld; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" >
<a style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD=
" href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/H390-MVS/conversations/messag=
es/19408;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJxcnI5N2NqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1ODc5NjYEZ3Jwc3B=
JZAMxNzA1MzA5NTQ4BG1zZ0lkAzE5NDA4BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTU4NjgwOT=
c1Mw--?act=3Dreply&messageNum=3D19408">Reply via web post</a>
</td>
<td>•</td>
<td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p=
x 5px;" >
<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A%20=
%5BH390-MVS%5D%20SMF%20and%20TK-4" style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #=
2D50FD;">
Reply to sender </a>
</td>
<td>•</td>
<td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p=
x 5px;">
<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A%20%5=
BH390-MVS%5D%20SMF%20and%20TK-4" style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D=
50FD">
Reply to group </a>
</td>
<td>•</td>
<td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p=
x 5px;" >
<a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/H390-MVS/convers=
ations/newtopic;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlNnI4Y2VjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1ODc5NjYE=
Z3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MzA5NTQ4BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTU4NjgwOTc1Mw--" s=
tyle=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a>
</td>
<td>•</td>
<td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p=
x 5px;color: #2D50FD;" >
<a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/=
H390-MVS/conversations/topics/19404;_ylc=3DX3oDMTM2bTFyOTdhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0=
BGdycElkAzI1ODc5NjYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MzA5NTQ4BG1zZ0lkAzE5NDA4BHNlYwNmdHIEc2x=
rA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTU4NjgwOTc1MwR0cGNJZAMxOTQwNA--" style=3D"text-decoration=
: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a>
(5)
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
<!------- Start Nav Bar ------>
=20
<!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| -->
<div id=3D"ygrp-vital" style=3D"background-color: #f2f2f2; font-family: Ver=
dana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;">
<span id=3D"vithd" style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transf=
orm: uppercase; "><a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/H390-MVS/i=
nfo;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlNjczNDQzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1ODc5NjYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMx=
NzA1MzA5NTQ4BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTU4NjgwOTc1Mw--" style=3D"text=
-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a></span>
<ul style=3D"list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: in=
line;">
</ul>
</div>
<div id=3D"ft" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5p=
x; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;">
<a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJkYWozM2VsBF9TAzk3ND=
c2NTkwBGdycElkAzI1ODc5NjYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MzA5NTQ4BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzd=
GltZQMxNTg2ODA5NzUz" style=3D"float: left;"><img src=3D"https://s.yimg.com/=
ru/0.9.12/min/css/yahoo_en-US_f_pw_101x21.png" height=3D"21" width=3D"101" =
alt=3D"Yahoo! Groups" style=3D"border: 0;"/></a>
<div style=3D"color: #747575; float: right;"> • <a href=3D"https://i=
nfo.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html" style=3D"text-decoratio=
n: none;">Privacy</a> • <a href=3D"mailto:H390-MVS-unsubscribe@yahoogr=
oups.com?subject=3DUnsubscribe" style=3D"text-decoration: none;">Unsubscrib=
e</a> • <a href=3D"https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/" =
style=3D"text-decoration: none;">Terms of Use</a> </div>
</div>
<br>
<!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| -->
</div> <!-- ygrp-msg -->
=20
<!-- Sponsor -->
<!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| -->
<div id=3D"ygrp-sponsor" style=3D"width:160px; float:right; clear:none; m=
argin:0 0 25px 0; background: #fff;">
<!-- Start Recommendations -->
<div id=3D"ygrp-reco">
</div>
<!-- End Recommendations -->
</div> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| -->
<div style=3D"clear:both; color: #FFF; font-size:1px;">.</div>
</div>
<img src=3D"http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=3D97359714/grpId=3D2587966/grpspI=
d=3D1705309548/msgId=3D19408/stime=3D1586809753" width=3D"1" height=3D"1"> =
<br>
<img src=3D"http://y.analytics.yahoo.com/fpc.pl?ywarid=3D515FB27823A7407E&a=
=3D10001310322279&js=3Dno&resp=3Dimg" width=3D"1" height=3D"1">=20
<div style=3D"color: #fff; height: 0;">__,_._,___</div>
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~-->
</body>
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~-->
<head>
<style type=3D"text/css">
<!--
#ygrp-mkp {
border: 1px solid #d8d8d8;
font-family: Arial;
margin: 10px 0;
padding: 0 10px;
}
#ygrp-mkp hr {
border: 1px solid #d8d8d8;
}
#ygrp-mkp #hd {
color: #628c2a;
font-size: 85%;
font-weight: 700;
line-height: 122%;
margin: 10px 0;
}
#ygrp-mkp #ads {
margin-bottom: 10px;
}
#ygrp-mkp .ad {
padding: 0 0;
}
#ygrp-mkp .ad p {
margin: 0;
}
#ygrp-mkp .ad a {
color: #0000ff;
text-decoration: none;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc {
font-family: Arial;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd {
margin: 10px 0px;
font-weight: 700;
font-size: 78%;
line-height: 122%;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad {
margin-bottom: 10px;
padding: 0 0;
}
#actions {
font-family: Verdana;
font-size: 11px;
padding: 10px 0;
}
#activity {
background-color: #e0ecee;
float: left;
font-family: Verdana;
font-size: 10px;
padding: 10px;
}
#activity span {
font-weight: 700;
}
#activity span:first-child {
text-transform: uppercase;
}
#activity span a {
color: #5085b6;
text-decoration: none;
}
#activity span span {
color: #ff7900;
}
#activity span .underline {
text-decoration: underline;
}
.attach {
clear: both;
display: table;
font-family: Arial;
font-size: 12px;
padding: 10px 0;
width: 400px;
}
.attach div a {
text-decoration: none;
}
.attach img {
border: none;
padding-right: 5px;
}
.attach label {
display: block;
margin-bottom: 5px;
}
.attach label a {
text-decoration: none;
}
=20=20
blockquote {
margin: 0 0 0 4px;
}
.bold {
font-family: Arial;
font-size: 13px;
font-weight: 700;
}
.bold a {
text-decoration: none;
}
dd.last p a {
font-family: Verdana;
font-weight: 700;
}
dd.last p span {
margin-right: 10px;
font-family: Verdana;
font-weight: 700;
}
dd.last p span.yshortcuts {
margin-right: 0;
}
div.attach-table div div a {
text-decoration: none;
}
div.attach-table {
width: 400px;
}
div.file-title a, div.file-title a:active, div.file-title a:hover, div.fi=
le-title a:visited {
text-decoration: none;
}
div.photo-title a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div=
..photo-title a:visited {
text-decoration: none;
}
div#ygrp-mlmsg #ygrp-msg p a span.yshortcuts {
font-family: Verdana;
font-size: 10px;
font-weight: normal;
}
.green {
color: #628c2a;
}
.MsoNormal {
margin: 0 0 0 0;
}
o {
font-size: 0;
}
#photos div {
float: left;
width: 72px;
}
#photos div div {
border: 1px solid #666666;
height: 62px;
overflow: hidden;
width: 62px;
}
#photos div label {
color: #666666;
font-size: 10px;
overflow: hidden;
text-align: center;
white-space: nowrap;
width: 64px;
}
#reco-category {
font-size: 77%;
}
#reco-desc {
font-size: 77%;
}
.replbq {
margin: 4px;
}
#ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {
/* border-right: 0px solid #000;*/
margin-right: 2px;
padding-right: 5px;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg {
font-size: 13px;
font-family: Arial, helvetica,clean, sans-serif;
*font-size: small;
*font: x-small;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg table {
font-size: inherit;
font: 100%;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {
font: 99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {
font:115% monospace;
*font-size:100%;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg * {
line-height: 1.22em;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg #logo {
padding-bottom: 10px;
}
#ygrp-msg p a {
font-family: Verdana;
}
#ygrp-msg p#attach-count span {
color: #1E66AE;
font-weight: 700;
}
#ygrp-reco #reco-head {
color: #ff7900;
font-weight: 700;
}
#ygrp-reco {
margin-bottom: 20px;
padding: 0px;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li a {
font-size: 130%;
text-decoration: none;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li {
font-size: 77%;
list-style-type: square;
padding: 6px 0;
}=20
#ygrp-sponsor #ov ul {
margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 0 8px;
}
#ygrp-text {
font-family: Georgia;
}
#ygrp-text p {
margin: 0 0 1em 0;
}
#ygrp-text tt {
font-size: 120%;
}
#ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {
border-right: none !important;=20
}=20
-->
</style>
</head>
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~-->
</html>
<!-- end group email -->
--Apple-Mail=_C25CB3BF-E19A-48A5-AFEB-634797998B71--