RE: Re: Fullscreen application Specs

Fran  ALL
 
I really do appreciate your testing - I am answering you on the "Group Chat"
becasue I would like to get some others involved in the testing.
First of all MANY thanks for finding my BUGS and your patience is
appreciated.
 
I did have some issues with the new versions and the Inactivity Timer last
night. 
But fixing that bug led me to another one, which may have been the root
cause for some of the problems we have been having.
 
The server has been up now for the last 7 hours - I do not see any issues
and it's not getting stuck.(Of course only a few people logged on.) 
Unless I hear differently I am assuming we have a work-around for the
disconnect problem
 
Now to your comments :
 
You wrote: 


----->I forget the syntax of the Insert and Delete prefix commands.  
----->Insert will only insert one line even when I use 'I5' 'I 5'
----->Delete will only delete one line even when I use 'D5' or 'D 5'

I mentioned earlier that the I & D commands  work slightly different with
the new formats.
I & D default to one line,
If you want more - (Up to 99) you have to put a blank on the action line.
I2b I99b or I6b etc. without the blank it defaulst to 1,
 
you wrote:

------>I get a little disoriented with the screen position after these
prefix commands.  I'm not sure what to expect but it is different than
Xedit.

   
About the screen jumping around  after inserts and deletes and the setting
of the CURSOR position I agree with you that it is very messy.
I get confused also
 
I would like someone to define a set of SPECS and I will do it - Not a big
issue and it can be done in a day. Just need to know what we expect the
first line to be after an INSERT,  COPY. MOVE and DELETE and the same for MM
CC DD
 
About the Colors
I am not using an extended DATA Stream so I won't be able to give you bells
and whistles, Underscores, Background Color. or choose the colors I want
 
We have HIGH NORMAL DARK and PROT NUM UNPROT to play with.
Most 3270 Emulators will use specific colors for the data in each type of
field.
 
In the body of the map we have two  fields on Each Line. Both unprotected
We can't use numeric  or PROT so we are left with HIGH INTENSITY and NORMAL
That's two choices: We just have to decide where  and when to use them -
right now everything is UNPROT Normal intensity in the body of the map .
 
I can play with that but need the definitions of when to use what.
 
Same for setting the Initial cursor position - Need to know where we want it
to be after each action - If it was successful or an error
And of course what line we want to be the top line of the MAP
 
For instance after a successful SEARCH - Do we want the top  lin on the MAP
to be the field we found or a line or two before that.
NO problems here just need the definitions to be well thought out. 
 
Everyone is invited to make suggestions.
But please don't say like X-EDIT or  TSO EDIT - I  really need details.
Really strapped for time. So appreciate very much the group participation.
 
Fran - stack command sounds great- I have had that problem very often myself
- What you suggested sounds similar to CUT APPEND in TSO.
I would really like to do it but the logic right now is a bit compicated and
I think I will leave that on the WISH LIST.
Of course I'll be publishing all this in a few days and you can then
add/play as you like.
 
Working on the SAVE and FILE routines now - hopefully we will have a BETA in
a day or TWO and then 'll publish it all.
 
As for dropping out of the editor - I guess that means that the inactivity
TIMER is working and you were writing for 20 minutes.
On the Edit I think I made it 20 minutes - can be changed , but longer might
cause issues logging on with stuck terminals
 
Currently no warning - just kicks you out - Problem with a warning message
in EDIT is: 
that I would probably destroy the screen.
I could send  the same map  again but then I would lose your input. 
If I want to get a lot more comlicated I could do a read buffer and then
save anything you entered - But thats on the WISH LIST.
 
For now please give some thought to what I should do in EDIT if you time
out, when I have the WRITE WORKING. 
 
I can save the file or save it with a temp name or ignore it.
What about autosave  after 10 Minutes - again complicated - but doable -  
Food for thought.
 
What about increasing the TIME OUT. Remember that we have Stuck terminals
and Hercules gets stuck on a STUCK terminal instead of working in a loop
 
ROC
 
 
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Rocky -
 
It's now an hour later and I was able to Dial CMSUSER 490.
 
Still using a model 4 screen and the line 18 problem appears to be solved.
 
I forget the syntax of the Insert and Delete prefix commands.  
Insert will only insert one line even when I use 'I5' 'I 5'
Delete will only delete one line even when I use 'D5' or 'D 5'
 
I'm pleasantly surprised again.  I put MM on line 34, hit F8 to next page,
put MM on line 45,
Hit F7 back to first page, put P on line 2 and it worked beautifully.
 
I tried DD on line 34 and line 46 and that worked.
 
I changed lines here and there and paged forward and backward and the
changes stayed.
 
I get a little disoriented with the screen position after these prefix
commands.  I'm not sure what to expect but it is different than Xedit.
 
I have an editor on VSE called CONDOR.  CONDOR has a nice feature that turns
the lines numbers red for changed or moved lines.
The RESET command turns them green again. 
I don't know how difficult that would be  but it would  give your editor
something that even Xedit doesn't have.
 
CONDOR also has a stack prefix command K and KK.  K puts one line in the
stack and KK pairs put multiple lines in the stack.
You can continue to add lines to the stack from anywhere is the edited file.
The you can paste the lines using KA or KB (Paste After or Paste Before)
If you decide to do something like this I suggest KF or KP (Paste Following
or Paster Proceeding).  
The stack is then cleared unless you use the Repeat option:  KA,R or KB,R
 
You are making great progress.
 
While I was composing this email my edit session timed out and I was DROPPED
FROM CMSUSER 490.
I was able to get back in on 490.
 
/Fran