Re: Fullscreen application Specs

--- In [email protected], "Rocky" <rocsystems@...> wrote:
>
> Andy can make it part of the 6-pack if he wants 
> and I think that will
> improve the User experience for everyone.

Robert O'Hara releases that these days. You can't
ask for much more than a VM knight releasing it. :-)

> I will play around with the "C"

Cool.

> I am counting on you giving me advice and help 
> when I get to that stage.

Sure. Don't spend more than 10 minutes on anything
to do with setting up C. I will tell you what
button to press if you show me what you've got up
to in that 10 minutes.

And then we can head over to Beersheba to celebrate.
Water's on me.

BFN.  Paul.





> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> kerravon86
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 09:50 
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [H390-VM] Re: Fullscreen application Specs
> 
> 
>   
> 
> --- In [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rocky"
> <rocsystems@> wrote:
> >
> > The way I wrote "C" it was almost assembler in any case.
> 
> As it will be on VM too.
> 
> > I'm pretty sure that most old timers work the same way -
> > If they don't have a tool box then they are not really pros.
> 
> I have a toolbox of utilities, but nothing that
> would really help with something like what you're
> doing.
> 
> Then again PDOS was a whole lot easier just having
> a C library to lean on.
> 
> > But "C" is fine - I never wrote it on the MF so 
> > I am a little apprehensive.
> > When I have a BUG in assembler I know its my BUG
> > A bug in "C" - I'm not sure.
> 
> I totally understand the apprehension - but please
> try generating a small C function:
> 
> int addnums(int a, int b)
> {
> return (a + b);
> }
> 
> and make sure you compile with optimization on
> (-Os) and I suspect that you'll be perfectly
> happy taking ownership of that generated code.
> 
> From then on everything's just a variation of
> the theme. :-)
> 
> Surely you can at least try it once, in 3 * 10-minute
> intervals? First 10 minutes is trying to find the
> compiler on your system and then reporting here
> what didn't work. Second 10 minutes is running it
> and asking here a question about R13. Third 10
> minutes is calling it from assembler and saying
> "Who would've believed it? It actually works!". :-)
> 
> BFN. Paul.
> 
> > From: [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of
> > kerravon86
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 19:09 
> > To: [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > Subject: [H390-VM] Re: Fullscreen application Specs
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rocky"
> > <rocsystems@> wrote:
> > >
> > > There is a lot of app logic involved here
> > 
> > And you're still not tempted to write any of
> > this in C?
> > 
> > While you personally are clearly very productive
> > in assembler, anyone else trying to debug a
> > problem or make minor improvements is going to
> > give up before they even start.
> > 
> > I see all assembler code on a dangerous road to
> > an orphanage. It's a dying art (a fact hidden
> > by the unusual nature of participants in these
> > Herc groups), while C programmers are 
> > permanently available at a dime a dozen.
> > 
> > BFN. Paul.
> >
>