Re: Fullscreen application Specs

--- In [email protected], Mike Stramba <mikestramba@...> wrote:
>
> On 8/4/10, kerravon86 <kerravon86@...> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "Rocky" <rocsystems@> wrote:
> >>
> >> There is a lot of app logic involved here
> >
> > And you're still not tempted to write any of
> > this in C?
> >
> > While you personally are clearly very productive
> > in assembler, anyone else trying to debug a
> > problem or make minor improvements is going to
> > give up before they even start.

[this was a loose use of English. It obviously
doesn't mean every single person, it means most,
and not most in this group. However, given the
nature of this group, I should have worded it
more carefully, so apologies].

> Speak for yourself, as you obviously love C.
> 
> I much prefer the 'native" language  of 370 assembler, and reading
> through the source has been like being in a "toy store".

Sure. Fine.

> > I see all assembler code on a dangerous road to
> > an orphanage. It's a dying art (a fact hidden
> > by the unusual nature of participants in these
> > Herc groups), while C programmers are
> > permanently available at a dime a dozen.
> 
> Well who cares? ..

I do, when there's a bug in it, and there's no-one
around with the skills to fix it.

> This is an *ancient* / historical operating system, 
> we're playing with.

Speak for yourself. The latest version of the
operating system was released 24 hours ago?
48 hours? I lost track, there's so many versions
coming out, being a dynamic development
effort.

> Most of the fun (for me) is figuring out how things 
> work, learning JCL
> / Assembler, and the other crpytic / different / old stuff.

Fine.

> If we're going to write it in C, then why not Visual Basic ?...

Because it is not an adequate replacement for
assembler, in my opinion. And more practically,
it doesn't exist on VM.

> interpreted (well actuall Rexx is close to that :) 
> .. and I *am* also interested in Rexx.

We have two versions of REXX available, both
written in C.

> /rant on

Ditto. Actually it would have been more than a
rant, except for the fact that I can see I made
an English error, so I can see how it would
have been misinterpreted.

> If you love C, so much, instead of continually 
> bugging Rocky

Perhaps if Rocky felt that he was being "bugged",
he would say so himself, instead of relying on
you to speak on his behalf?

His responses to date have been something very
different from "I am not at all interested in
C, I only want to program in assembler".

> to bend to *your* preferred preferred language
> (you've mentioned C at least a
> half dozen times in this thread), 

So you've discovered that I have freedom of
speech in my country, and are miffed that I use 
it for something you personally don't like?
I'm afraid you'll have to live with that
inconvenience.

> while he writes an AWESOME Editor /
> "mini CICS", and is planning to GIVE it away,  
> go ahead and convert it to C.
> 
> /<rant off

I have no interest in writing an editor, or
converting the existing code to C. My comment
was triggered by a comment from him saying
that there was a lot of application code to
write in a certain area, and to me, that
screams "C".

BFN.  Paul.