RE: Re: IND$FILE Update

"Rocky" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.emulators.hercules390.vm
Message-ID <[email protected]>
thanks Paolo
 
I guuess I was so intent on debugging the Ascii to Ebcidec  translation that
I forgot to pay attetion to the straight ebcidec
.
 
Is that what you are saying?
 
I'll take care of that I - rather quickly I hope if that is the issue
 
Roc
 
But yes its a big step forward.
The ascii seems to be working OK
 
Have you tested with any other emulators besides wc3270 and VISTA
 
Roc

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
paoloG
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 16:30 
To: [email protected]
Subject: [H390-VM] Re: IND$FILE Update


  



--- In [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rocky"
<rocsystems@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all
> 
> The GCIC full screen emulator is now working with a "newer version" of the
> IND$FILE emulation.
> 
> I have tested it with VISTA and WC3270 (x3270) and both work fine for
> uploading.
> Please do some testing and let me know the results.
> 
> Before I continue - Now is the time for some KUDO's to Tom Brennon - The
> Vista Developer.
> 
> I ran into some serious problems in the logic and when I got to wits end,
I
> wrote Tom directly and he very genrously gave me some pointers about the
> logic.
> 
> We don't see this kind of help too often any more outside of the Hercules
> forums and family. 
> Especially since his application is commercial.
> 
> He invested some time - dug out his old code and spent part if his weekend
> putting some stuff together for me. 
> I very much appreciated his efforts, and since I never had any contact
with
> him before, its worth mentioning his genrous help.
> 
> Aside from the above - (I have been using a different Emulator for years
but
> I was very impressed with the VISTA - very nice product) 
> 
> Back to the IND$FILE issues:
> The Upload is working with some caveats - It will default to LRECL 130
> variable unless you enter the parameters.
> Want some feedback before I start the download -- No since writing this
> twice if we have problems.
> 
> It seems that that there are two different base translation tables that
work
> with IND$FILE.
> 
> The original table that we found on the open source C3270 site -
(FT_CUT.C)
> 
> I used that LOGIC first and it worked with my very old (25 years) LOGNET
> EMULATOR both on the real IND$FILE and on the GCIC emulator in VM/370.
> However, newer emulators Like VISTA (less than 25 years) or X3270 and
> probably others, did not work on the GCIC application but did work agains
> the real IND$FILE 
> 
> 
> I examined the traces from these emulators and I could see that they were
> using different translation tables.
> Enter Tom Brennon ---
> 
> Using Tom's information, I changed some of the conversion logic and Now
the
> GCIC is working with VISTA and WC3270 but not with my old emulator.
> 
> There are probably a few other emulators out there in the community, like
> PC3270 or ATTACHMATE etc. Like to know if they are working properly so
> please give it a try.
> 
> Best I can figure out, is that somewhere along the line, IND$FILE logic
was
> changed - The newer emulators are using the newer logic, but the older
> emulators are still using the old logic and the real IND$FILE was made
> backward compatible to handle both. Thats just a guess
> 
> A few questions arise with this logic:
> 
> 1) I can't tell from the traces how the Real IND$FILE knows which tables
to
> use. They are incompatible.
> 2) The logic that I saw in the X3270 source does not match what X3270 is
> sending. However it did match what my old LOGNET emulation is sending.
> (Source code management)
> 
> All very strange - I'll do some more investigating - But if the ony
problem
> is my old emulator - Either I'll switch to Vista- or add the old routine
to
> the application and instead of using IND$FILE I'll use IND&FILE to use the
> oldroutine if I cant find a better way.
> 
> Server is up with the new code. rocsys.dyndns.org port 3277 D CMSUSER
> pw TSTUSR1 TSTUSR1
> File transfer is accessed from FLIST screen - PF6
> Tab character transfers as x'05' - the CH /x'05/ / * * works - just as
> written (1 apostrophe) - for the "C" programmers
> 
> When you get back to FLIST after the transfer - if the file is new you
will
> have to do a refresh. 
> SD will show the files in descending date order
> "A" disk is R/W
> 
> If you fill it up please remove most of the data when you are done. 
> 
> Questions - always
> 
> Once again many thx to Tom
> 
> Roc
> 
Hi Roc,

here are the results of some tests (with nice Brennan's VISTA):

1) Transferred an ASSEMBLER source (ASCII) to GIND: OK.

2) Transferred an ASM 386 source to GIND: OK (some mess with TABS..;-)

3) Transferred an ASSEMBLER source in EBCDIC to GIND: file transfer OK but I
couldn't find it in FLIST; after some investigation I found it had
overwritten the last file transferred; anyhow with unintellegible data. 

4) Transferred again the same EBCDIC source: now I could find it but
unintellegible.

Transferred again the ASM 386 source: OK (but for TABS).

By all means great improvement; go ahead Roc!

Paulo
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