Re: Interesting idea

"idc3009i" <idc3009i-OY9L03cMKN8G2Il/[email protected]> Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:10:14 -0000
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--- In [email protected], "paoloG" <crc@...> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8@> wrote:
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> > Hello!
> > Here's an interesting one, over on the Z/VM list David Boyes just
> > confirmed that a system running HP05 was finally shutdown. I didn't
> > ask why, it might be obvious, but he did describe what system it was,
> > it happened to be a 3090 family machine.
> > 
> > Now would anyone know what system IDs were the sort that could, or
> > even could not, be the sort of machine who could or could not, be a
> > candidate for a "vanilla" VM/370rel6 setup. Now remember we have the
> > original configuration who described what machine the creator of the
> > original series had in mind.
> >  To be honest, I can't recall what VM/370rel6 was targeted towards,
> > and for all I know it might have been run on early 3090s as their
> > owners were working towards migrating towards, the ESA and HP05 family
> > of operating systems.
> > -----
> > Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@
> > "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
> >
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> Hello!
> 
> Not sure to understand which is your 'interesting idea': to put your hands on the 3090 400J with VM/HPO5 (mentioned by David Boyes) or to know on which real metal can run vanilla VM/370 rel6?
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> In the first case be ready to have a large building and to shell out great bucks for electric power and IBM hardware maintenance: 3090 400J is one of the largest IBM mainframes ever built.
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> Mainframes starting from 138 to 168 and 3031-3033 surely supported VM/370; not sure if 4341 supported it officially, as in 1979 was announced VM/SP1.
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> You would need a string of 3350's or 3340's too...a tape unit..a printer.. maybe a card reader; some 3278.. a 3274...
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> I think Hercules would be a better choice;-) 
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> Regards.
> 
> Paul
>

Hello.

I think there might be a problem in attaching 3350s to a 3090, even if you could find any.  The place I was working when the 3350s were phased out did so because the new machine was not capable of supporting them for some reason.  I don't remember exactly why this was, but they also had to get rid of the MSS at the same time because it was tied to the 3350s for staging space (a pity really because it was quite amusing watching it work).

Given access to this particular machine, I think my temptation would be to conserve a working copy of VM/HPO rather than try to get VM/370 to go on it.  Of course, there's always the option of running VM/370 under HPO.